Who you got, keeper league?
There are guys who create offense, and then there are guys who benefit from those guys.
Benn makes the players around him better.
Neal is the benificiary of Malkins great season.
Take Benn
14 Team, Keep14 Farm5, 82GP Cap/Position
Skaters: Points only, Goalies 2ptWin/3ptSO
Start: 4C,4LW,4RW,6D,2G
C- Crosby, Zibanejad, Couturier, Zacha, Frost
LW- Marchand, Huberdeau, McTavish, Rackell, Kuzmenko
RW- Konecny, Necas, Caufield, Jarvis, Lafreniere
D- Hughes, Carlson, Werenski, Chychrun, Andersson, Dobson, Weegar
G- Andersen, Merzlikins, Daccord, Jones
Farm- Johnston, Foerster, Tarasov, Hutson, Reinbacher
Picks-1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,11
Unless goals are worth a premium in your league I'd go with Benn also
10 team full keeper roto 4C/LW/RW,6D,2G
G,A,P,+/-,PIM,SOG,GWG,PPP,SHP,Hit,Blk,FOW
W,GAA,SV,SV%,SHO
C-Aho,Couturier,Matthews,O'Reilly
LW-Ehlers,Giroux,Panarin,Rust
RW-Kucherov,Palmieri,Pastrnak,Wilson
D-Burns,Carlson,Gudas,Josi,Nurse,Pietrangelo
G-Fleury,F.Andersen,Markstrom
BN-Zacha
Under 250 gp farm
Beaucage,Berggren,Bokk,Brisson,Chytil,Dugan,Foerst er,Foote,Frost,Grewe,K.Johnson,Lindblom,Mikheyev,N ybeck,Peterka,Pospisil,Protas,Ranta,Raty,Stankoven ,Suzuki,Tuomaala
Alexeyev,Brook,Foote,Graves,Poirier,Sanderson,Seid er,Wilde,Woo,Zamula
Berdin,Brossoit,Commesso,Ersson,Husso,Knight,Koche tkov,Lafontaine,Oettinger,Primeau,Sandstrom,Stolar z,Ustimenko,Vladar
Perhaps should be noted that I have Malkin. Super torn.. 2 trades that I could persue, one for Neal and one for Benn.
Niemi for Benn
Lindback, Peverley and Horton for Neal, Markov and Strome
10 team full keeper roto 4C/LW/RW,6D,2G
G,A,P,+/-,PIM,SOG,GWG,PPP,SHP,Hit,Blk,FOW
W,GAA,SV,SV%,SHO
C-Aho,Couturier,Matthews,O'Reilly
LW-Ehlers,Giroux,Panarin,Rust
RW-Kucherov,Palmieri,Pastrnak,Wilson
D-Burns,Carlson,Gudas,Josi,Nurse,Pietrangelo
G-Fleury,F.Andersen,Markstrom
BN-Zacha
Under 250 gp farm
Beaucage,Berggren,Bokk,Brisson,Chytil,Dugan,Foerst er,Foote,Frost,Grewe,K.Johnson,Lindblom,Mikheyev,N ybeck,Peterka,Pospisil,Protas,Ranta,Raty,Stankoven ,Suzuki,Tuomaala
Alexeyev,Brook,Foote,Graves,Poirier,Sanderson,Seid er,Wilde,Woo,Zamula
Berdin,Brossoit,Commesso,Ersson,Husso,Knight,Koche tkov,Lafontaine,Oettinger,Primeau,Sandstrom,Stolar z,Ustimenko,Vladar
Should also be noted that I'm looking to move one of my goalies for a stud forward. I drafted a goalie high to trade. Also have Halak and Bernier. I dont really want to trade Linback as he will have rookie keeper status going into next year, so I'm leaning toward the Benn trade
Initially looking at the question, I was going to say Benn due to the point driver/benefactor argument posted above. You always want the driver. Looking at those trades I definitely choose Benn. To be honest I don't even like the Neal trade. Not knowing how your point system works, as long as Horton is healthy he is only a minor downgrade from Neal, and I hate any deal involving Markov. Dude is a perpetual injury machine and old. Do the Benn deal, renegotiate the Neal trade or leave it on the table.
Neal for me. I would take him over Benn anyday.
As for your trades, I would do both if you can.
Derek Reese - Future Hall of Famer
14 Team NHL Salary Cap Dynasty
H2H, Salary Cap 108 Mil, Player actual salaries
1 Week scoring period
G,A,PTS,GWG,PIM,SOG,STP,HT,BL,+/-,W,GAA,SV,SO
Starters: 12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalies
F - Marchand, Marner, Marchessault, Stamkos, Tuch, Comtois, Farabee, Bennett, McCann, W. Nylander, Nugent-Hopkins, Kapanen
D - Barrie, Oleksiak, Suter, Gudbranson, Savard, Lyubushkin, Ferraro
G - Saros, Rittich
Bench - Mittelstadt, Reimer, Roslovic, Keller, Reaves, Toews
Prospects - Byfield, Mercer, Veleno, Chmelevski, Tippett, Comrie, Tomasino, Valimaki, Gustavsson, Wolf
Neal over Benn without question for me as well. Wether Benn creates his own offence is irrelevant in their current situations.
14 Team NHL Salary Cap Dynasty -daily starts
H2H, Salary Cap 95mil, Player actual salaries (all)
+/-,G,A,GWG,PTS,STP,PIM,SOG,HT,BS,GAA,SO,SV,W
Starters: 12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalies
Forwards: Domi, K.Connor, Kessel, Parise, Monahan, Point, Rantanen, Kucherov, Panarin , M.Martin, Reaves, Marner
Defense: Butcher, K.Russell, Pelech, Girard, Klingberg, Larsson
Goalie: Rask, Hellebuyck
Reserves: D.Strome, Jo.Benn, Polak, C.Crawford , M.Jones, A.Dell, Koskinen
Prospects: Soderstrom, Sorokin, J.Dahlen, Kaprizov, Yamamoto, Makar, Starrett , F.Sandstrom, Timmins, T.Terry
Fantrax TAHL 2013 & 2018 Champion
Last edited by One87; January 7, 2013 at 12:51 AM.
League:Fantrax 18 Team Dynasty, H2H (4C, 8W, 6D, 1G)
Cats:G, A, GWG, PPP, SHP, SOG, H+B, FOW, S, SV%, W, GAA
C: Backstrom,Giroux,MacKinnon,Seguin
W: D.Brown,Hartnell,Hossa,P.Kane
Kesler,Marleau,Perron,Zibanejad
D: Boyle,Del Zotto,Doughty,D.Hamilton,Hedman,Markov
G: Rinne
Bench: Braun,Comeau, Demers,DeHaan,Polak,Stempniak,Wingels --Fleury
I think Jamie Benn is a better hockey player than James Neal, but right now as it stands James Neal is a better fantasy option than Jamie Benn. While Benn makes those around him better, and Neal is the benificiary of Malkin's great play, it doesn't change the fact that I would rather have Neal on my fantasy team.
On top of the fact that I think Neal is the better fantasy option, I feel like the trade to acquire Neal is a better trade than the one for Benn.
Niemi is a better goalie than Lindback, or at least in a better situation to put up fantasy points. Which makes the Neal trade much more appealing, on top of the fact that I think Neal is better. Losing Peverly and Horton is tough one to swallow in a 19 team league, but you have the depth that prevents it from being a big deal, and you get another nice piece in Strome who you can keep on as a rookie.
Easy decision to go with Neal.
I'd do both trades.
With Malkin, Benn, Neal you're unstoppable.
Goalies often come out of nowhere. What FA Goalies are on the waiver wire?
Yahoo - 8 Teams - Dynasty League
(G,A,SOG,HIT,BS,+/-,W,GAA,SV%,SO)
F: Crosby | Malkin | Ovechkin | Giroux | Toews | Perry | Bergeron | Kovalchuk (IR) | Duchene | Benn | Backes | Callahan | Landeskog | E. Staal | J. Staal | Galchenyuk | Gallagher | Silfverberg | Doan
D: Letang (IR) | Seabrook | Keith | Girardi | Green | Ehrhoff | Ellis | Kulikov | Trouba | Beaulieu | Spurgeon | M. Staal (IR) |
G: Lundqvist | Fleury
2006: 9th | 2007: 5th | 2008: 5th | 2009: 2nd | 2010: 1st | 2011: 1st |
i like neal better but id do both trades.
10 team Full Keeper Roto League
4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.
C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov
under250gp=nichushkin,tuch,mathesson,marino,pujuja rvi,hosang,terry,andersson,j.hughes,patrik,crouse, zadina,podkolzin,k.miller,nedeljkovic,kravtsov,hay ton
--G,A,P,PPP,SHP,GWG,PIMS,+/-,SOG,hits,FOW,blks-Wins,GAA,SV%,saves,SO
I prefer Benn. I think he has yet to hit his upside while Neal may have over achieved a little last year due to Malkin. I sense that in a couple years Benn may be VERY hard to acquire.
Stat Categories: G(1), A(1), +/- (.5), PIM (.25), SHG (2), SHA (1), GWG (2), Hits and blocks (.1), W(2), GA (-.2), SV (.05), SO (5)
C(x3), L(x3), R(x3), D(x6), Utility(1), G(x3), Bench(x6)
(Keep 10 skaters, 2 goalies)
C: Backes, Kuznetsov, Pavelski, Thornton, Grandlund
L: Benn, E. Kane, Dupuis, Kunitz, N. Filigno
R: Kassian, Tarasenko, Yakupov, Coyle
D: B. Smith, Carlson, D. Hamilton, Giordano, Hamonic, Seidenberg, Goligoski
G: Rask, Schneider, Lindback, Anderson