I'd keep McDavid unless you get your socks blown off so this isn't a trade I would do.
First off I'd like to say thanks for all the advice in my post about Hanifin and Klingberg. Your points were received well. Klingberg it was.
Anyways, like I mentioned before I'm at the end of a rebuild. I have Mcdavid and a butt load of blue chip prospects and young NHL Studs. We held our draft over the weekend and yesterday I was offered Eichel and McKinnon for Mcdavid+. The "+" is still in conversation but it's looking like either Mantha, Draisaitl or Strome plus a second round Pick in 2016.
10 team Points only Dynasty league. 1P goal, 1P assist. Forwards, defence and goalies for positions.
Whats your take on it? Is this a wash in years to come? Hold on to Mcdavid? Have him give me his dog in the trade? Thanks ahead of time. Props to everyone
I'd keep McDavid unless you get your socks blown off so this isn't a trade I would do.
20 team H2H Fantrax Cap Dynasty
2018/2018 Cap=90 mil
G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, PIM, SOG, FO%, HIT, BLK, TOI/G
W, GAA, SV%, SV, SHO
3C/LW/RW, 6D, 2Sk, 2G
C: Backstrom, Bergeron, Eichel
L: Benn, Rakell, Coleman, Goldobin, Weal, B. McGinn
R: Pavelski, Radulov, Panik, B. Tanev, D. Ryan
D: Burns, Josi, Weber, Ellis, Manson, Forbort, Stecher, Weegar
G: Talbot, Elliott
Farm: Harkins, Hayden, Kampf, Highmore, Dickinson, Bjork, Motte, Foegele, Rychel, Kossila, Poturalski, Graves, Bear, Nielsen, Timmins, Ozhiganov, McKeown, Gillies, Boyle, Brossoit, Ellis, Rittich
No plus and I'd like. With the adds I would hold on to what you got.
10 team Full Keeper Roto League
4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.
C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov
under250gp=nichushkin,tuch,mathesson,marino,pujuja rvi,hosang,terry,andersson,j.hughes,patrik,crouse, zadina,podkolzin,k.miller,nedeljkovic,kravtsov,hay ton
--G,A,P,PPP,SHP,GWG,PIMS,+/-,SOG,hits,FOW,blks-Wins,GAA,SV%,saves,SO
Keep McDavid and don't do anything stupid
14 Team NHL Salary Cap Dynasty -daily starts
H2H, Salary Cap 95mil, Player actual salaries (all)
+/-,G,A,GWG,PTS,STP,PIM,SOG,HT,BS,GAA,SO,SV,W
Starters: 12 Forwards, 6 Defense, 2 Goalies
Forwards: Domi, K.Connor, Kessel, Parise, Monahan, Point, Rantanen, Kucherov, Panarin , M.Martin, Reaves, Marner
Defense: Butcher, K.Russell, Pelech, Girard, Klingberg, Larsson
Goalie: Rask, Hellebuyck
Reserves: D.Strome, Jo.Benn, Polak, C.Crawford , M.Jones, A.Dell, Koskinen
Prospects: Soderstrom, Sorokin, J.Dahlen, Kaprizov, Yamamoto, Makar, Starrett , F.Sandstrom, Timmins, T.Terry
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I'd probably keep McDavid though
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I really don't get why you should add another prospect and even a draft pick.
With all the trades which were posted here for McDavid, you shouldn't even consider this offer. Put him on the block and wait for someone to offer the world for him. Otherwise just keep him.
Eichel & McKinnon for McDavid & 2nd MIGHT be fair, but barely. Considering the potential of McD though I would pass on just that offer.
Asking to add a Mantha etc. is outrageous.
10 team full keeper roto 4C/LW/RW,6D,2G
G,A,P,+/-,PIM,SOG,GWG,PPP,SHP,Hit,Blk,FOW
W,GAA,SV,SV%,SHO
C-Aho,Couturier,Matthews,O'Reilly
LW-Ehlers,Giroux,Panarin,Rust
RW-Kucherov,Palmieri,Pastrnak,Wilson
D-Burns,Carlson,Gudas,Josi,Nurse,Pietrangelo
G-Fleury,F.Andersen,Markstrom
BN-Zacha
Under 250 gp farm
Beaucage,Berggren,Bokk,Brisson,Chytil,Dugan,Foerst er,Foote,Frost,Grewe,K.Johnson,Lindblom,Mikheyev,N ybeck,Peterka,Pospisil,Protas,Ranta,Raty,Stankoven ,Suzuki,Tuomaala
Alexeyev,Brook,Foote,Graves,Poirier,Sanderson,Seid er,Wilde,Woo,Zamula
Berdin,Brossoit,Commesso,Ersson,Husso,Knight,Koche tkov,Lafontaine,Oettinger,Primeau,Sandstrom,Stolar z,Ustimenko,Vladar
Another McDavid vote here. You need two top ten for him (Seguin, Giroux, Tavares...)
1) 16 teams full keeper H2H. Start 9F, 4D, 1G, 2 Championships
pts: (D : 7 pts G /5 pts A), (F : 5pts G /3 pts A), (G : 10 pts W / 5 pts SO), (D/F : 1 pt +/-, 0.5 pts PIM, 0.1 FOW, 0.2 Hits, 0.3 pts SOG, PP and SH).
Forward : Aho, Svechnikov, PLDubois, Giroux, Couture, Wheeler, Cozens, Karlsson, Vrana, Anderson,Greenway,
Defenses : Dahlin, Fox, Doughty, Toews, , Slavin, Miller
Goalies : Oettinger, Vanecek, Bobrovsky
Prospects : Dostal, Schmid, Chinakhov, Bordeleau, Ostlund, Brindley, Gulyayev
If you have to add to trade McDavid, then you shouldn't be trading McDavid.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
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In 2-3 years , we'll look back abd see how funny it was to compare the two . Media just need comparisons . McDavid side for me but it was a nice effort of the other GM to offer Eichel and McKinnon . I think this was his final thought after the ridiculous first offer .
17th season keeper league with salary cap,16 teams ,max 38 players per team,UFA/RFA system,contracts.
Cats:fwd(1pt=1pt)top 6 count -Bratt/Hischier/Kakko/Hintz/Meier/W.Johnston/Mercer/Lafrénière/Perfetti/Zibanejad//Mercer/Holtz/Panarin/Kreider/
D(G=2,A=1.5)top 4 count- A.Fox/Heiskanen/K.Miller/Hutson
Goalies(save%,W,SO)top 2 count-Shesterkin/Oettinger
plus 4 other cats: top powerfwd(Trocheck)
setupman(J.Hughes),sniper(J.Robertson)rookie(M.Bou rque/G.Perreault/Stankoven)
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12 Team H2H (Daily) - Keep 10 + 5(Farm)
4C/3LW/3RW/4D/3G/4Bench/3IR
G A Pts +/- STP GWG SOG/ W Sv% GAA SHO
Centers:
A. Barkov (IR), C. McDavid, J. Carter, Y. Gourde(LW), N. Paul(LW), C. Stephenson
LWs:
F. Forsberg, J. Guentzel, A. Duclair(RW), E. Haula(C), A. Killorn
RWs:
N. Ehlers(LW), V. Tarasenko, F. Gaudreau(C), V. Podkolzin
D:
T. Chabot, C. Makar, M. Dumba, OEL, N. Schmidt
G:
S. Bobrovky, T. Demko, J. Gibson(IR), A. Stolarz(IR)
Farm:
J. Annunen, A. Kaliyev, A. Lundell, F. Lysell, M. Rossi
One way to look at is if you replace Connor with Sidney and see if you would do it.
Crosby + ________ for 'Not Crosby' and Mackinnon.
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It's not ridiculous to entertain this trade.
Until we know the roster depth, the trade can't be evaluated.
Player value is all about relative difference to the last counting player.
For example,
Part I: Put a Scoring Number on the Players
100 - McDavid
80 - Eichel
75 - MacKinnon
??? - WaiverWireScrub thrown in with McDavid
Part II - Count the relative difference to last counting forwards.
In a 10 team x 6F pool, there's 60F in play... and the #60 NHL F might score 55pts every year.
This makes:
+45 McDavid
+25 Eichel
+20 MacKinnon
--- Scrub
*This shakes out about even... but if the McDavid team can replace the Scrub with a guy better than 55pts... he wins.
In a 10 team x 12F pool, there's 120 F in play... and the #120F in the NHL might score 35pts per year.
+65 McDavid
+45 Eichel
+40 MacKinnon
--- Scrub
Now, here... Eichel + MacKinnon (+85 net) is better than McDavid + WaiverScrub (+65 net).
All about relative difference to last counting forward.
League depth is important in 2-for-1 type trades.
So... I don't know which side is better... it could be either... but I know that it's not necessarily McDavid just by default.
Q: Which side would an NHL team take?
A: I'd bet it would be Eichel/MacKinnon, but that's an example of a 30-team league with 23-players each.
I agree. McD for Mac and JE wouldn't be too bad but to be asked to throw in another young player + a draft pick is far too rich for my blood.
Trading McD+ in a points only dynasty is a loss IMO. I wouldn't want to move the best player in this deal period.
Hockey Pools? Too many to mention. Points only, salary cap and dynasty.