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    So I have an owner in my league who is pressing hard for Schneider and its getting to the point where I feel I need to seriously consider.

    This is a 12 team H2H dynasty, setup as follows:

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    Goals, Assists, PPP, GWG, HITS, PIM, BLKS, WINS, GAA, SV%,
    Saves, SO

    Latest offer is his Toews + Myers + 9th overall for Schneids

    I'm in a win now, and my 3 goalies are Schneids/Holtby/Varly

    What are your thoughts?

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    Default Re: Toews + VS Schneids

    How big of an upgrade would Toews be over your current Cs? I don't mind the deal because you have 3 solid tenders. Would probably try to push a Varly counter offer before moving Schneider though.

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    You must really love calling him Schneids to save yourself the trouble from all the work of having to type out the "er".
    LOL!

    If FOW was in play... I'd say maybe on Toews.
    With a 7/5 category split though, that's a whole lot of weight for goalies... and with Saves in play, having a trio of #1s is boss.
    If one of those guys goes down, you are still in good shape.
    If all three are healthy, heck, you can make this trade next March for your stretch run.

    I see no reason how making this trade (for Toews) helps you now.

    Hold Shnides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    You must really love calling him Schneids to save yourself the trouble from all the work of having to type out the "er".
    LOL!

    If FOW was in play... I'd say maybe on Toews.
    With a 7/5 category split though, that's a whole lot of weight for goalies... and with Saves in play, having a trio of #1s is boss.
    If one of those guys goes down, you are still in good shape.
    If all three are healthy, heck, you can make this trade next March for your stretch run.

    I see no reason how making this trade (for Toews) helps you now.

    Hold Shnides.
    Technically it only really saves me the "r", since I went ahead and added an "s" to make it sound better. I do love me some Schneids!

    This is my thinking though, I feel like face value this is a good offer, but my league settings and my team makes it harder to swing. Thanks for the advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slug View Post
    How big of an upgrade would Toews be over your current Cs? I don't mind the deal because you have 3 solid tenders. Would probably try to push a Varly counter offer before moving Schneider though.
    Yeah unfortunately this guy is Schneider or bust. For reference here is the full roster for my team (note positions are yahoo, so guys like Zetts may be C's):

    1. (C) Derick Brassard
    2. (C) Sidney Crosby
    3. (C/LW) Taylor Hall

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    2. (LW) Henrik Zetterberg
    3. (LW/RW) James Neal
    4. (LW) Daniel Sedin
    5. (LW) Jaden Schwartz

    1. (RW) Alex Ovechkin
    2. (RW) Marian Hossa
    3. (RW) Cam Atkinson
    4. (RW) Patric Hornqvist
    5. (RW) Nail Yakupov
    6. (RW) Phil Kessel

    1. (D) Oliver Ekman-Larsson
    2. (D) Mark Giordano
    3. (D) Mike Green
    6. (D) Victor Hedman

    1. (G) Semyon Varlamov
    2. (G) Cory Schneider
    3. (G) Braden Holtby
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laendarian View Post



    Yeah unfortunately this guy is Schneider or bust. For reference here is the full roster for my team (note positions are yahoo, so guys like Zetts may be C's):

    1. (C) Derick Brassard
    2. (C) Sidney Crosby
    3. (C/LW) Taylor Hall

    1. (LW) Scott Hartnell
    2. (LW) Henrik Zetterberg
    3. (LW/RW) James Neal
    4. (LW) Daniel Sedin
    5. (LW) Jaden Schwartz

    1. (RW) Alex Ovechkin
    2. (RW) Marian Hossa
    3. (RW) Cam Atkinson
    4. (RW) Patric Hornqvist
    5. (RW) Nail Yakupov
    6. (RW) Phil Kessel

    1. (D) Oliver Ekman-Larsson
    2. (D) Mark Giordano
    3. (D) Mike Green
    6. (D) Victor Hedman

    1. (G) Semyon Varlamov
    2. (G) Cory Schneider
    3. (G) Braden Holtby

    Looking at your C, D and G I'd say in a 12 team league with your settings Schneider will be more valuable than the potential incoming package.

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    After seeing your roster I don't see the need to move out a goalie, your team is solid all around and having the 3 goalies is nice insurance in the event of injuries. As Pen7 pointed out not having FOW really hurts Toews overall value.

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    Schneids might be the best goalie on your team with the saves cat! He'll get a ton of starts and take a lot of shots

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    As the others have stated, after seeing your LOADED roster, I'm not making this move. As Peng noted, there could be a time towards the end of the year where a deal like this makes sense, but I just don't see enough weakness being addressed (because there isn't really any) to deal one of your greatest strengths.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    ... having a trio of #1s is boss.
    Agreed.
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    As much as I like Toews, I would stand pat here - having 3 awesome tenders in your format is a huge plus.
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    Appreciate all the feedback folks, rep where I could
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