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    In a 12 team 17 Player Yahoo Roto Keeper League - Keep 10
    Start 2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 2G

    with these scoring settings: G, A, +/-, PPP, SHP, GWG, Hits, BS

    Which player do you prefer?

    Kopitar or RyJo (C/RW)

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    Personally I'd take RyJo in this setup as I think he'll be better or comparable in most cats (even +/- tho that's because I think CBJ will be a very strong team next year).

    Youth, his goal-scoring prowess (which always seems to amp guys' perceived value) and dual eligibility seal the deal for me.
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    RyJo for me....
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    Another Johansen vote for me.

    One thing I will say is Kopitar is going into a contract year. Some players elevate their games prior to a new contract.

    But in a keeper, RyJo
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    Default Re: Kopitar vs Johansen

    Johansen for me. He managed to have a pretty good season and take another step this year even with his team having so many injuries. At 22 he still has more room to grow.

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    I'd keep Johansen over Kopitar.. LA plays all 4 lines pretty evenly for the most part.. Johansen is the Blue Jackets #1 option!!
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    Johansen.

    And I'm a Kopi owner and love him as a player but he's not your guy here. The C/RW flex makes this a piece of cake for me. Thanks to Sutter, Kopitar may end up being one of the biggest fantasy teases of all-time. Every year we hear, "this is the year he breaks out and hits that 85 point upside" and every year he finishes with 60-70.
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    Default Re: Kopitar vs Johansen

    RyJo for me as well.

    Kopi has lost his luster for me over the years. Never seems to live up to the hype.

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    RyJo for me, although it's close. He's younger and dual-eligible, so that's enough for me.

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    With a Career average 73pts/82games, Kopitar is no dud right now, but age and dual position swings me to Jo.

    I’m not a massive fan of his downward trend the last few yrs, but Kopitar is still a top talent. His last 6 seasons his PPG has gone…0.987ppg, 0.973ppg, 0.927ppg, 0.894ppg (LO), 0.854ppg, and 0.810ppg. From his massively slow start and possibly playing hurt prolly lowered his production last yr, I still don’t think he is worth keeping over Ry-Jo, however, he’s set for a big turnaround with a contract yr and his first summer off since 2010-11 season
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    ^Gotta think if the coach/system in LA changes Kopitar is going to be a big benefactor as well.

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    Default Re: Kopitar vs Johansen

    I prefer Johansen.

    Kopitar is a great player, but RyJo is a beast fantasy-wise.
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