Reply With QuoteI would try #1, then #2 if he doesn't bite. However, I'm not a fan of giving away Kessel + for Getzlaf +.
Mason+ for Getzlaf or Duchene
The other owner has no goalies to keep (well, no keeper worthy ones: Nabokov, Thomas and Talbot) so he's interested in any of my guys
I'd prefer to keep Varlamov and Bobrovsky and I can probably sell him on taking a chance on Mason but I won't get a ton of value for him. But since I wouldn't be keeping Mason anyway I can afford to overpay to get a center off him since he has good depth there (he has Getzlaf, Duchene, Carter and Cogliano).
These are the options I am kicking around, do you think they are fair and how would you order them in terms of bang for the buck?
- Mason+Vanek for Getzlaf
- Mason+JVR for Duchene
- Mason+Kessel for Getzlaf+2nd round pick
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LW: Kessel, Vanek, Marchand
RW: Perry, Nyqvist, Voraeck
D: Weber, Wisneiwsky,Phaneuf,Josi,McDonough
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Re: Mason+ for Getzlaf or Duchene
I would try #1, then #2 if he doesn't bite. However, I'm not a fan of giving away Kessel + for Getzlaf +.
Re: Mason+ for Getzlaf or Duchene
Ya, I wouldnt do #3. I dont like that offer for you.
#1 or #2 might make him jump though.
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Re: Mason+ for Getzlaf or Duchene
These are decent proposals, especially since you need a center.
Your league cats don't list SOG... so the value of Vanek & Kessel isn't as high in this format as it would be in others.
Although your team doesn't have centers, it should still be the most well-stocked position, so don't give up your elite wingers to easily.
I like deal #1, because I think Vanek may end up like most MIN players with decreased stats, while he plays two-way hockey in MIN to win games 2-1.
I like deal #2, because Duchene and the Avs are just a great own and you could use a center.
Kessel... isn't he a RW?
Maybe deal #3 isn't so bad... but I like the Mason/Kessel side better.
One of my best advices in trading is to "simply ask" the other guy what he wants.
You say: "I'm interested in Getzlaf. I could offer you Mason plus one of Vanek/JVR. I'm also willing to trade Kessel, but I'd want more than just Getzlaf."
Other GMs are more willing to make a trade if they feel that THEY chose their players.
Straight-offers rarely are appreciated (in my experience), but if you give another GM some OPTIONS... he'll feel the trade is to his liking... more likely.
Good luck.
Re: Mason+ for Getzlaf or Duchene
Agreed with Marmot. Try 1, then 2, but don't do 3.
Re: Mason+ for Getzlaf or Duchene
i prefer 2 and 1 and i happen to loathe 3
Re: Mason+ for Getzlaf or Duchene
#1 is a winner if you can land that. The others are a slight overpayment on your part and I wouldn't offer them unless I got more in return. #2 is not that bad either but I think you can squeeze a depth player from him or farm player perhaps.Originally Posted by maximumass
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Re: Mason+ for Getzlaf or Duchene
1 and 2 are clear wins for you, if you can swing those its a slam dunk.
3 I am not opposed to as you already stated Mason would be going to the redraft anyways, so its more like Kessel for Getzlaf + 2nd, which I don't mind with your cats. That said it would depend on what you can nab with that 2nd, any idea on the quality of player you can expect there?
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LW: T Vanek, B Ryan, P Marleau, T Hall
RW: C Perry, K Okposo, A Ovechkin, Kucherov
D: D Byfuglien, Z Chara, E Karlsson, R Josi, D Keith, Trouba
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Re: Mason+ for Getzlaf or Duchene
Great advice and certainly part of my trade offer strategies in my leagues. I like offering multiple players I am willing to part with to make the deal and simply say "choose between these guys". It doesn't always work, but it works more often then not.
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Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
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Re: Mason+ for Getzlaf or Duchene
I like em in the order you have em listed.
I also lkike Pen's advice to give the guy options and see what he comes back with, that's often a good tactic
Re: Mason+ for Getzlaf or Duchene
Just another voice in the crowd in favour of options #1 & #2.
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Re: Mason+ for Getzlaf or Duchene
Yeah people seem to bite more if you give them a choice of players. That could work in your favor.
Re: Mason+ for Getzlaf or Duchene
Well that happened fast, he got back to me right away actually
He didn't bite on the Getzlaf deal but I was able to swing Mason+JVR for Duchene!
That really helps me at C, thanks for the help
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C: Duchene, Giroux, Richards B
LW: Kessel, Vanek, Marchand
RW: Perry, Nyqvist, Voraeck
D: Weber, Wisneiwsky,Phaneuf,Josi,McDonough
G: Varlamov, Bobrovsky
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Re: Mason+ for Getzlaf or Duchene
Congrats!
I'm shopping Mason as well, without nearly as much success.
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Re: Mason+ for Getzlaf or Duchene
Beauty trade for you!
Just curious, how did you propose it? Straight up trade - or did you offer him a choice?
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