Tampa Bay looking to break the single-season wins record

[hockeyrobot]

Tampa is losing a game by 2. What is going on!?!!?

[ericdaoust]

Tampa is losing a game by 2. What is going on!?!!?

Tanking for a lottery pick

[hockeyrobot]

Jk.......unreal game.

[saucelife90]

Jk.......unreal game.

Rask looked pissssssed.

[ericdaoust]

Rask looked pissssssed.

He has hissy fits from time to time

[hockeyrobot]

The current odds to win the East are crazy. Some great value with anyone other than TB....and given just how the playoffs are they are no where near as heavy favorites to go to the Final as the lines indicate.

TB - 1.95
Boston - 6.50
Wash - 10.00
Toronto - 10.00
Pitt - 10.50
NYI - 12.00
Car 13.00
Mon - 18.00
CBJ - 18.00

[hockeyrobot]

The odds to win the Cup are even crazier. Get on board friends!

TB - 2.80
Cgy - 9.00
Bos - 10.00
VGK - 14.00
SJ - 14.00
Win - 14.00
Nash - 15.00
Wash - 16.00
Tor - 16.00
Pitt - 17.00

[metaldude26]

The odds to win the Cup are even crazier. Get on board friends!

TB - 2.80
Cgy - 9.00
Bos - 10.00
VGK - 14.00
SJ - 14.00
Win - 14.00
Nash - 15.00
Wash - 16.00
Tor - 16.00
Pitt - 17.00

I was looking at this stuff yesterday trying to find the best value options and couldn't land on anything I liked enough to bet. Most of these I'd rather just go series to series with. I'm also sitting on tickets for NYI at 60/1 and CAR at 60/1 so I may just ride those out.

[MZac]

I was looking at this stuff yesterday trying to find the best value options and couldn't land on anything I liked enough to bet. Most of these I'd rather just go series to series with. I'm also sitting on tickets for NYI at 60/1 and CAR at 60/1 so I may just ride those out.

I don't hate pittsburg at 17 or San Jose / Vegas at 14. I don't love them either.

[hockeyrobot]

I don't hate pittsburg at 17 or San Jose / Vegas at 14. I don't love them either.

Yeah that's kind of the problem too. Everyone else has such great odds I just can't figure out who I like. Vegas is definitely rolling lately.

[metaldude26]

Yeah that's kind of the problem too. Everyone else has such great odds I just can't figure out who I like. Vegas is definitely rolling lately.

I just don't see how these are "great odds". Vegas is going to be roughly a 50/50 bet in every series. If you just bet them in every series the extrapolation works out to roughly a 14/1 return, but your money isn't tied up for months, and you can better respond to information like serious injuries that might have you wanting to jump off of Vegas early. I think these are priced appropriately and there isn't much value.

[hockeyrobot]

I just don't see how these are "great odds". Vegas is going to be roughly a 50/50 bet in every series. If you just bet them in every series the extrapolation works out to roughly a 14/1 return, but your money isn't tied up for months, and you can better respond to information like serious injuries that might have you wanting to jump off of Vegas early. I think these are priced appropriately and there isn't much value.

By comparison....here are some MLB favorites. I think they're great because Tampa's odds are so low that it is giving value to everyone else.

Boston - 7.00
Houston - 7.00
NYY - 7.00
LAD - 8.00
Philly - 11.00
Cubs - 13.00
Mil - 14.00
Clev - 15.00

[metaldude26]

By comparison....here are some MLB favorites. I think they're great because Tampa's odds are so low that it is giving value to everyone else.

Boston - 7.00
Houston - 7.00
NYY - 7.00
LAD - 8.00
Philly - 11.00
Cubs - 13.00
Mil - 14.00
Clev - 15.00

I think you are conflating "not obviously bad value" with "good value". Like I said, you could just roll over your bets on Vegas each round and get a similar return so I'm not sure why you'd tie up your money now. The price is pretty much bang on.

[hockeyrobot]

I think you are conflating "not obviously bad value" with "good value". Like I said, you could just roll over your bets on Vegas each round and get a similar return so I'm not sure why you'd tie up your money now. The price is pretty much bang on.

Well...similar return and actual return could mean a lot of things to people gambling. So saying the price is pretty much bang on could mean a huge difference depending what you're betting. Not that I bet a lot of money by any means.....

Maybe Vegas was the wrong team to point out. I guess I just meant I like their chances of going to the Cup.

The real great value comes with Pitt/Wash and Winnipeg/Nashville. Barring pretty big upsets, one of each of those teams is making each Conference Final so to get them at 14/15/16/17 to 1 is pretty great to me. Especially when they'll be large favorites in Round 1 and split in Round 2.

[metaldude26]

Well...similar return and actual return could mean a lot of things to people gambling. So saying the price is pretty much bang on could mean a huge difference depending what you're betting. Not that I bet a lot of money by any means.....

Maybe Vegas was the wrong team to point out. I guess I just meant I like their chances of going to the Cup.

The real great value comes with Pitt/Wash and Winnipeg/Nashville. Barring pretty big upsets, one of each of those teams is making each Conference Final so to get them at 14/15/16/17 to 1 is pretty great to me. Especially when they'll be large favorites in Round 1 and split in Round 2.

But then underdogs in R3 and R4. Unless you are getting 20/1 or higher you really aren't gaining an advantage betting it now vs. betting series to series.