Re: Possible collusion and what possible penalties should be enforced
Originally Posted by
Pengwin7
Oof. What a story.
Collusion? Yes.
This is actually the definition of collusion, if you check a dictionary.
From Merriam-Webster:
Definition of collusion
: secret agreement or cooperation especially for an illegal or deceitful purpose
Secret agreement or cooperation: yes.
Illegal: no, but
Deceitful: yes.
Personally, I'd say the penalty is that the colluding parties should pay you a "2nd place winnings". Call this "Event A".
This is what you would/should have earned if the colluding trade had not occurred.
Let them figure out how much each team should pay. They can collect it and give it to you in one envelope.
If you made this proposal, though, they would push back with an argument of "But (ultimately) we didn't get the 1st place winnings.. and YOU did."
That argument doesn't matter.
You sacrificed future assets - and your reward is a 1st place winnings.
This is your choice... and there's no way to accurately compute those "damages".
But this decision can be considered a separate "event", call it Event "B", from what would have taken place if the collusive trade had not happened (Event "A").
From Event A: 3 colluding teams pay you an amount of "2nd place winnings".
From Event B: You won first place, but sacrificed your team's future assets to do it.
My 2 cents.
[FWIW - I used to help a buddy with these "points carry" leagues. They are stupid. Eventually... when your leaguemates get smart... nobody makes "in-season" trades any more. GMs simply link-up as a "GoingForIt"/"Rebuilding" pair. They wait exactly until the last minute of trade deadline... and then pull off the best deal they can. Any trades made more than minutes before the trade deadline is mathematically - amateur. That's a GM showing his hand... which is why you were able to rally for 1st... because you had time to organize a counter-move. The guy that was in first made his move too early. Really not too bright about how to pull off this heist. Great that you caught him! ***But, again, these formats are stupid and... eventually... your leaguemates will get hip, only pull-off trades minutes before the deadline. If they happen to not visit this forum - then you've now got the secret for future years... though eventually others will do the same - which is what happened in my buddy's league after I taught him how to do it that way. Good luck.]
+1 to this...except you are probably only entitled to the difference between 2nd and 4th place since absent Event A you finish 4th.
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