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I'm not sure I'm buying what your selling re: consistency of holding penalties in the NFL. I agree that most of the really flagrant stuff does get called, but there is a huge variation in what gets called for marginal things, IMO.
I'd also suggest you are comparing apples and oranges. You are comparing one kind of NHL penalty against every kind of NHL penalty. (How often are people on here complaining about a missed holding penalty in the NHL, or a missed hooking penalty?)
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My point was more about the asterisk. If Patrick Roy gets an asterisk because the maximum amount of games he could win was 15 (which he did), why not give the same asterisk to Dryden (he won the maximum amount of games possible, which happened to be 12). Really, this "record" is about rookie goalies who win the Stanley cup. At least that's how I see it
My point is, that the reffing in the NFL tends to be very consistent. They don't alter what is called, and what is not called based on how important the game is. The line is well defined. You aren't allowed to goon the punter in the motion of kicking in a tight Superbowl without a call. You rarely see anybody in the NFL arguing with a referee suggesting that a call was missed that should have been called. That is a daily occurrence in the NHL.
The line shifts in the NBA officiating as well, depending on game circumstances such as game importance and score. I just wish it was consistent across the board. The entire concept of "putting away the whistles and letting them play" during the really important games is such a flawed way to do it.
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Agreed on the 'putting away the whistles and letting them play' argument. Doing that only helps determine WHO is going to be playing - the goons or the skilled guys (in simplistic terms). It's why Don Cherry's favourite guys (the 3rd and 4th line guys) get so much love from him during the playoffs, they're not in the box where they should be a lot of the time.
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NEW ORLEANS -- It's not often that you can get 73,000 people to all agree on something, but everybody inside the Mercedez-Benz Superdome definitely agreed on one thing after the Rams stunning 26-23 win over New Orleans on Sunday: The Saints got hosed by one of the worst no-calls in NFL history.
I had a feeling that this may be brought up. Yes there is no question that this was a bad call. I watch a lot of NFL football. Off the top of my head, this is the single only instance that I can think of like this. I guess maybe there is an argument for the whole "tuck rule" fiasco. That was, what? 15 years ago?
It seems silly, that my stating that the NFL officiating tends to be very consistent, is going to be refuted by stating one single instance. It sucks that the call happened in the first place, but one case is simply not enough to suggest that officiating in the NFL is not consistent. This kind of thing is perfectly commonplace in the NHL. I stand by my statement.
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Agreed. But still should have been a penalty.
They seem to miss too many calls where the play is actually happening. Changes definitely need to be made this summer. It doesn't make sense to me that both referees AND both lineseman do not see these obvious infractions. I know the linesman can't make the calls but they do have input. The NHL needs an off ice official with more authority on these obvious infractions because it does change the game and the ref's should not influence the game in anyway. They are there to make sure the players are playing by the same rules.
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In terms of missed calls, the Bozak trip is pretty low on the list. It’s in the spotlight because St. Louis scored right after, but stuff like that doesn’t get called pretty frequently in the playoffs and the trip didn’t really impact the clearing attempt. Definitely a penalty and definitely should always be called in a respectable and legitimate league, but we all know the NHL is neither of those things.
In terms of NFL reffing consistency, it’s always funny to me when people point to extreme single outliers (that’s immediately lead to a rule change) and thinks it counts as evidence for them and not against them.
The Patriots - Steelers playoff game, and that ridiculous call about James not getting the game winning touchdown also comes to mind. These are critical blunders that literally changed who went to the superbowl and who didn't. And that Steelers-Pats game was a couple years back. Two years in a row that it's been absolute crap who went to the Superbowl....