Reply With QuoteWard.
(nothing else to say).
smith or ward
smith or ward for a full keeper goalie.
gaa, s%, wins, SO, saves
10 team Full Keeper Roto League
4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.
C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov
under250gp=nichushkin,tuch,mathesson,marino,pujuja rvi,hosang,terry,andersson,j.hughes,patrik,crouse, zadina,podkolzin,k.miller,nedeljkovic,kravtsov,hay ton
--G,A,P,PPP,SHP,GWG,PIMS,+/-,SOG,hits,FOW,blks-Wins,GAA,SV%,saves,SO
Ward.
(nothing else to say).
I want to say Ward, but it's pretty clear that Smith soundly trounced him this past season.
Ward is about as secure as they come. Great situation for him. Lots of games. He's established.
Smith has done it once, but then he did it in all world fashion. Hard not to like him, but wouldn't we all feel better if he had done it twice?
Is Phoenix stable? Is Phoenix falling?
Is Carolina stable? Is Carolina rising?
Teams factor into the goaltenders status.
It's important that you go with the guy you trust in this circumstance. That leaves two reasonable answers.
Ward's the safer option but Smith has a higher ceiling in Tippett's system. Because Tippett focuses on limiting quality shots and not shots as a whole Smith will see a ton of shots again next year. If he's successful again he'll score big points in both sv% and saves. Smith is in the pefect place for him to succeed and is a better option for next year. Long term I'm not sold on Smith outside of Phoenix/Tippet's system, but I'd still take a shot on Smith for 1 year and move him if he and Tippett are separated (might also move him if he and Burke are separated).
ward is more stable.
roto. keeper with farm
gls. ass. +-. pims. ppp. shp. blks. hits. fows. sog.
sp. gaa. svs. so. w.
I hate to call Smith a one year wonder, but lets be honest, he doesnt have the soundest history. He has had a great year no doubt about it but thats all his career has been to this point.
With Ward you know what you are getting. A true #1 (and has been for years now), a Stanley Cup Winner, a Conn Smythe winner.. do I need to go on?
Ward without a doubt.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, SBennett
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
"Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."
Smith was always a pretty good prospect.
For some reason we trust Wardo more. not me. Smith is great & Tippetts system makes him greater.
Check Ward's stats over the last few seasons. In the OP's league categories, Ward ranges from OK to terrible. Yet he's considered safe. He's safe to continue what he's produced over the last few seasons - nothing special.
Im going to have to go with Smith here. Tippett's system has been a lot more efficient and successful than anything implemented in Carolina. Remember.....Bryzgalov succeeded in Phoenix.
what do the goalie situations look like for the quick and rinne owners
anyway to sell high on a package of smith and holtby and nail a quick+ small part or rinne+ medium part
Next 2 years I want Smith
2+ years I want Ward
Go with Ward.
2010-2011 League Champion
2012-2013 Runner Up
ROTO
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 2,G | G, A, PPP, +/-, PIM, BS, W, GAA, SV%
C: Getzlaf, Backstrom
LW: Hall, Tlusty
RW: Malkin, Lupul
D: Ehrhoff, Del Zotto, Enstrom, Carle
G: Holtby, Smith
Bench: Faulk, Druoin, MacKinnon, Brodin, S. Mason, Bernier
H2H Keeper League [5F, 1D, 1F/D 1G]
2013 - 3rd
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D,1 Ult, 1 G -H2H Daily Start - G, A, +/-, Hits, BS, PPP, SHP - W, SV, GAA, SO
F:Tavares, Landeskog, E.Kane, Backes, Yakupov, RNH/Kesler
D: Green/OEL
G: Rask
A lot of guys in my league think this way. Those guys don't win.Originally Posted by 3rtpaper
This is true and thats why I gave the time frame. If you are going for the win this year then Smith.A lot of guys in my league think this way. Those guys don't win.
2010-2011 League Champion
2012-2013 Runner Up
ROTO
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 2,G | G, A, PPP, +/-, PIM, BS, W, GAA, SV%
C: Getzlaf, Backstrom
LW: Hall, Tlusty
RW: Malkin, Lupul
D: Ehrhoff, Del Zotto, Enstrom, Carle
G: Holtby, Smith
Bench: Faulk, Druoin, MacKinnon, Brodin, S. Mason, Bernier
H2H Keeper League [5F, 1D, 1F/D 1G]
2013 - 3rd
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D,1 Ult, 1 G -H2H Daily Start - G, A, +/-, Hits, BS, PPP, SHP - W, SV, GAA, SO
F:Tavares, Landeskog, E.Kane, Backes, Yakupov, RNH/Kesler
D: Green/OEL
G: Rask
I recall reading the ramblings and forums back when Smith was in Tampa, he was constantly getting slammed for being shite. Sure he plays on a better defensive team now but id take Ward over Smith, Better Career stats and Pedigree. But i think Smith probably has the better trade value right now
So comments from ramblings/forums of 2 years ago > performance throughout this season
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