Reply With QuoteI would try to get someone better than Zajac. Basically, if you can get someone else near the caliber of Parise, I'd likely do it. 2 safe B+ guys are safer than a very risky A.
EDIT : Here's a new offer :
I give : CRosby
I get : Parise - Zajac
Do you think it's better?
SWHL STHS Keeper - 24 teams
Roster : 4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G
Stats : G, A = mainly.
Hits, PK time, GV, TK = minor stats
C : Crosby, Thornton, Grabovski, Sobotka
LW : Vanek, Read, Morrow, Hansen
RW : Stastny, Clowe, Kulemin, A.Kost
D : Markov, Green, Letang, Spurgeon, Eminger, Sulzer
G : Lundqvist, Ellis
FARM : Chipchura, Cormier, Loktionov, Brennan, Larsne, Bonino, Gaunce...
PROSPECTS : Granlund, Trouba, Armia, Atkinson, Phillips, Hishon...
I would try to get someone better than Zajac. Basically, if you can get someone else near the caliber of Parise, I'd likely do it. 2 safe B+ guys are safer than a very risky A.
12 team Full Dynasty w cap. 13F, 7D, 2G, 5B.
G 4.25, A 2.75, PPP 1.5, SHP 3, Hits 0.4, Blocks 0.5, PIM 0.25, DFP 1
W 5 OTL 1 SO 6 SV 0.25 L-1 GS 1
F:Stamkos, C Stew, R Johansen, B Dubinsky, Max Pac, Umberger, B Ryan, D Backes, T Ruutu, Lucic, Ott, MSL, Heatley, C Kunitz, J Benn, L Adam
D: C Fowler, Kronwall, A Goligoski, JM Liles, M Giordano, K Letang, N Nikitin, R Josi
G: J Quick, A Niemi, C Anderson, Rinne
Here is his star players :Originally Posted by dongjohnson
E. Staal
J. Benn
Voracek
Malkin
SWHL STHS Keeper - 24 teams
Roster : 4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G
Stats : G, A = mainly.
Hits, PK time, GV, TK = minor stats
C : Crosby, Thornton, Grabovski, Sobotka
LW : Vanek, Read, Morrow, Hansen
RW : Stastny, Clowe, Kulemin, A.Kost
D : Markov, Green, Letang, Spurgeon, Eminger, Sulzer
G : Lundqvist, Ellis
FARM : Chipchura, Cormier, Loktionov, Brennan, Larsne, Bonino, Gaunce...
PROSPECTS : Granlund, Trouba, Armia, Atkinson, Phillips, Hishon...
Parise and Benn and a draft from him to you
Crosby and a round lower draft pick to him.
Parise is back to his old self and i don't think we've seen the peak of what Benn would do in this league.
Yes Crosby could return as a 100+ point guy, but when do the players you get back actually coutner balance that...and the severe injury risk that he is. One more big concussion and I'd be willing to be, he hang's them up. He's a smart guy. Money will never be a factor for him. And he's too smart to risk his life.
Just my opinion.
Benn and Parise + pick up-grade sounds decent but , don't under estimate Voracek , this
guy is just entering his prime.Maybe you could squeeze Parise , Benn & Voracek for Crosby
+ an expendable player.
Remember , the guy with the best player at the end of the day is generally the guy who
won the trade.Just saying...
Roto type keeper league.We keep any 6 ;15 teams , 3 div. of 5.We play 3 lines , 3 def. and start 2 goalies.6 BN.Stats are 1pt. for goals and assists , 2pts. for W , tie(O.T. or S.O. loss) 1pt. S.O. 1pt.Weekly line-up from Mon. to Sun. Total pts. per line against other teams lines.
LW - Ovechkin , Drouin ,Steen , Huberdeau
RW - Nash , Callahan , Nyquist
C - B. Schenn , Fisher , R.N.H. , St. Louis , T. Johnson
Def.- E. Johnson , Gologoski , Suter , Doughty , O.E.L.
G - Scheinder , Dubnyk , Lack
Fantastic Idea...re: Voracek. I only Caution you...don't strap yourself at Center. I wasn't paying attention to who you'd have left. Savard and Connoly to fill Crosby's shoes? If I'm reading correctly.
Esh!
So here's the last news:
The other GM doesn't want to talk about Benn.
My offer was something like :
Parise - Voracek - Zajac
vs.
Crosby - AK
What do you think?
SWHL STHS Keeper - 24 teams
Roster : 4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G
Stats : G, A = mainly.
Hits, PK time, GV, TK = minor stats
C : Crosby, Thornton, Grabovski, Sobotka
LW : Vanek, Read, Morrow, Hansen
RW : Stastny, Clowe, Kulemin, A.Kost
D : Markov, Green, Letang, Spurgeon, Eminger, Sulzer
G : Lundqvist, Ellis
FARM : Chipchura, Cormier, Loktionov, Brennan, Larsne, Bonino, Gaunce...
PROSPECTS : Granlund, Trouba, Armia, Atkinson, Phillips, Hishon...
Personally I would hold on to Crosby, and if you are set on trading him then trade him a few weeks into next season. He trains in the offseason like a beast, and will come back next year destroying it. If you are worried about the injury risk, then sell high at that time, but at present it is not optimal. As I said, personally I would keep him, otherwise I would wait. You will be able to get a lot more for him if you are set on trading him.
" You said you don't give a f*ck about hockey. I've never heard anyone say that before."
Well, he seems bored so here his last offer :
Zajac-Parise-Anisimov
vs.
Crosby
He doesn't want to include Voracek anymore
SWHL STHS Keeper - 24 teams
Roster : 4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G
Stats : G, A = mainly.
Hits, PK time, GV, TK = minor stats
C : Crosby, Thornton, Grabovski, Sobotka
LW : Vanek, Read, Morrow, Hansen
RW : Stastny, Clowe, Kulemin, A.Kost
D : Markov, Green, Letang, Spurgeon, Eminger, Sulzer
G : Lundqvist, Ellis
FARM : Chipchura, Cormier, Loktionov, Brennan, Larsne, Bonino, Gaunce...
PROSPECTS : Granlund, Trouba, Armia, Atkinson, Phillips, Hishon...
That's an easy no. Like someone above said, wait until 2 or 3 weeks into next season, and trade him as his value is rebounding again.
12 team Full Dynasty w cap. 13F, 7D, 2G, 5B.
G 4.25, A 2.75, PPP 1.5, SHP 3, Hits 0.4, Blocks 0.5, PIM 0.25, DFP 1
W 5 OTL 1 SO 6 SV 0.25 L-1 GS 1
F:Stamkos, C Stew, R Johansen, B Dubinsky, Max Pac, Umberger, B Ryan, D Backes, T Ruutu, Lucic, Ott, MSL, Heatley, C Kunitz, J Benn, L Adam
D: C Fowler, Kronwall, A Goligoski, JM Liles, M Giordano, K Letang, N Nikitin, R Josi
G: J Quick, A Niemi, C Anderson, Rinne
Crosby
If you have to ask if its a good deal then its not worth moving Crosby. Only way Id ever move him is if was an absolute no Brainer.
He added Ryan Sproul to the mix...
So...
Crosby
vs.
Parise-Zajac-Anisimov-Sproul
What do you think now?
SWHL STHS Keeper - 24 teams
Roster : 4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G
Stats : G, A = mainly.
Hits, PK time, GV, TK = minor stats
C : Crosby, Thornton, Grabovski, Sobotka
LW : Vanek, Read, Morrow, Hansen
RW : Stastny, Clowe, Kulemin, A.Kost
D : Markov, Green, Letang, Spurgeon, Eminger, Sulzer
G : Lundqvist, Ellis
FARM : Chipchura, Cormier, Loktionov, Brennan, Larsne, Bonino, Gaunce...
PROSPECTS : Granlund, Trouba, Armia, Atkinson, Phillips, Hishon...
It's not more players you need back, it's better ones. Tell him to stop putting together these big packages thinking the talent will somehow "add up" to the talent you'd be losing. You need to improve your starters at other positions while accepting a small downgrade at center. In these package deals he's aiming for the classic "best player in the deal" win.
H2H 10 GMs Keeper: keep up to 4 at cost of draft pick (round) G, A,+/-,Blocks,SOG,PPP; Wins,GAA,Sv% Start 3C 3RW 3LW 4D 2G, weekly starts
C: Еric Staal Henrik Zetterberg (LW) Matt Duchene Brayden Point Danny Heinen (C/LW/RW)
LW: Johnny Gaudreau Taylor Hall Jonathan Huberdeau Nick Schmaltz (C/LW)
RW: Никита Kucherov Blake Wheeler Jakub Voráček Teuvo Teräväinen (LW/RW)
D: Shea Weber Dustin Byfuglien Keith Yandle Seth Jones
G: Ben Bishop Jake Allen Martin Jones
Not enough... Crosby's definitely a sell-high right now in my books, but I'd think you can get more than Parise.
you are not going to get value for crosby its just not going to happen
no way i would give anywhere near value to someone i knew was trying to get rid of a player especially one of the top players to own
you are scared and the other gms know this and they are going to treat the negotiations that way
just hold crosby if he is as good as you tried to tell everyone he is he sounds like a good player to have
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