Reply With QuoteCons: Flyers don't need him.
Seriously, their core right now is probably best left intact other than dealing pieces for a cornerstone d-man to replace Pronger.
Could the Flyers land Nash?
I know, I know, I know... The Flyers. But after McKenzie and Dreger both mentioned that they were in the hunt for his services, I started crunching numbers to figure things out.
I don't pretend to understand how GMs work outside of my fantasy pool, but I put together a package I think would work to land Nash.
We'd send: Schenn, Voracek, Bobrovsky and a 1st
We'd get: Nash and Sandford
I then calculated this depth chart for next year, assuming Pronger would be on LTIR, that we'd sign Suter and that we'd promote some of our youth (dreamers can dream, right?)
FORWARDS
James Van Riemsdyk ($4.250m) / Claude Giroux ($3.750m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Wayne Simmonds ($1.750m) / Daniel Briere ($6.500m) / Scott Hartnell ($4.200m)
Maxime Talbot ($1.750m) / Sean Couturier ($1.375m) / Matt Read ($0.900m)
Tom Sestito ($0.550m) / Eric Wellwood ($0.580m) / Zac Rinaldo ($0.544m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan Suter ($6.300m) / Kimmo Timonen ($6.333m)
Braydon Coburn ($4.500m) / Andrej Meszaros ($4.000m)
Erik Gustafsson ($0.900m) / Marc-Andre Bourdon ($0.875m)
GOALTENDERS
Ilya Bryzgalov ($5.666m) / Curtis Sanford ($1.200m)
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $63,724,444; BONUSES: $450,000
CAP SPACE (20-man roster): $575,556
Now, I know this is far fetched, but what are your thoughts? If the stars aligned and we COULD pull this off, what are the pros and cons?
The Untouchables Cup.
C: Crosby, Giroux, J. Staal, Statsny, Desharnais
RW: Voracek, B. Ryan, Brown, Gallagher
LW: Parise, Landeskog, Lucic, van Riemsdyk
D: Suter, Edler, Carlson, Girardi, Hamhuis, Giordano
G: Rask, Luongo, Halak
Categories:
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP,
SHP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK
W, SV, SV%, GAA, SHO
10 Team Roto Limited Keeper
3C, 3RW, 3LW, 2W, 1F, 6D, 2G, 3BN
Cons: Flyers don't need him.
Seriously, their core right now is probably best left intact other than dealing pieces for a cornerstone d-man to replace Pronger.
Trading Nash for Vorecek would be like PR suicide no matter what else they get back.
From Philly's perspective - why bother? They have good leadership and a good room now. Why muck it up? What does Nash bring that JVR doesn't if leadership is stripped from the equation?
Limited Keeper - Keep 5
Auction draft with a budget of $600. Whatever is left becomes your acquisition budget for the season. At the end of the season 50% of your budget is carried over to the next year.
Keeper players are taxed +$10 for forwards with over 75 pts. +$5 for forwards under 74pts. +$0 for forwards under 50pts.
D = +$10 for 65pts +$5 for under 64pts +$0 under 40
G = +$10 for 32W +$5 for under 31W & +$0 under 15W
(G) (A) 25, (+/-) 5, (PIM) 3, (PPG) 7.5, (PPA) 5, (SHG) 10, (SHA) 7.5
(SOG) 1 (W) 50, (L) -20, (GA) -5, (SV) 2, (SHO) 50
The Flyers NEED defense...but yes they can (and might) land Nash.
8-GM / WK-H2H
Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10
Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
Captain: Matthews
(F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
(D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun, Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
(G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka
I agree. Our top priority should be defense, but with the plan I proposed it allows to sign Suter at a 6.3 cap hit if he goes to open market. That means there will be room if we make a similar move and we will be able to sign a D man.
The Untouchables Cup.
C: Crosby, Giroux, J. Staal, Statsny, Desharnais
RW: Voracek, B. Ryan, Brown, Gallagher
LW: Parise, Landeskog, Lucic, van Riemsdyk
D: Suter, Edler, Carlson, Girardi, Hamhuis, Giordano
G: Rask, Luongo, Halak
Categories:
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP,
SHP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK
W, SV, SV%, GAA, SHO
10 Team Roto Limited Keeper
3C, 3RW, 3LW, 2W, 1F, 6D, 2G, 3BN
Honestly... I'd be pissed if Homer made that deal. We got a good thing going and there is no reason to be impatient. We defintely do need to add the best defenceman we can. Other than that, the team is looking good.
Would you be happy with Luke Schenn for JVR? Cause I'm not.
The Untouchables Cup.
C: Crosby, Giroux, J. Staal, Statsny, Desharnais
RW: Voracek, B. Ryan, Brown, Gallagher
LW: Parise, Landeskog, Lucic, van Riemsdyk
D: Suter, Edler, Carlson, Girardi, Hamhuis, Giordano
G: Rask, Luongo, Halak
Categories:
G, A, P, +/-, PIM, PPP,
SHP, SOG, FW, HIT, BLK
W, SV, SV%, GAA, SHO
10 Team Roto Limited Keeper
3C, 3RW, 3LW, 2W, 1F, 6D, 2G, 3BN
I would not be even with JVRs issues right now. Schenn has really taken a few steps back over the past two seasons. I know that defensemen take a long time to blossom, and multiply that for defensive defensemen; but if Schenn was as good as the Leafs had expected and hoped for, I don't think he'd be on the block at all.Originally Posted by Straight Chillin
I don't see any reason for them to acquire Nash. Would be fun to do in NHL 12 but in real life it doesn't make sense.
I'd rather punch myself in the nuts than trade JVR for Schenn.
According to Burke, Schenn is not on the block.
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