Wideman or Ian White?

[kluzo]

I have Wideman but White is avaliable on waiver wire. My thought is that White is playing with Lidstrom where Wideman is not getting much PP time but I see White is getting tons.

Worth the waiver wire pick up? or not enough difference by the end of the year to worry much about it?

I am leaning towards White but as most everyone on here, just would like to get other thoughts!

[Shake]

I have Wideman but White is avaliable on waiver wire. My thought is that White is playing with Lidstrom where Wideman is not getting much PP time but I see White is getting tons.

Worth the waiver wire pick up? or not enough difference by the end of the year to worry much about it?

I am leaning towards White but as most everyone on here, just would like to get other thoughts!

Yes I would definitely grab White. He will get lots of PP time and better overall numbers.

[NYR9394]

I agree with Shake. Inexplicably, i've watched alot of the Wings so far this season and I can see him putting together a nice season. He's getting a fair chance on the PP and I think that he would be even better if Kronwall goes down with injury. (which isn't out of the realm of possibility)

[LeTrefle]

White, without hesitation for me.

[agentzero]

Hmn....good thread as I was just asking myself the same question. I went with White as I see him as a better replacement for Rafalski than is Kronwall.....With Wideman, things are getting crowded in WSH....especially bc of Carlson's play and their need to give Green lots of time and plus OV plays the pt....Tough...

Hope I'm right!

[PocketRockets05]

White for me as well. More opportunity to produce in Detroit due to Washington's crowded blue line. Good luck!

[dmvincent]

I'll take Ian White.

[blayze]

Call me crazy, but I'd keep Wideman over White.

They are in similar situations but I think Wideman's is a little more favourable. The 75% of the time WAS is not rolling with 4 forwards on their PP, Wideman is on the top unit (Carlsson is not playing on the PP at all).

In Detroit, looks like White is splitting time with Kronwall on the PP.

It's not a huge difference, but I'd say Wideman because of his pedigree and also because he's on a team that will score a lot more goals in general.

I've seen White personally quite a bit from his days as a leaf and although he may be off to a good start, I really doubt he's in the same league as Wideman talent-wise.

I guess we'll see over the course of the season

[Riverboat Danglers]

both to me are inconsistent dmen in pretty good situations. i would take wideman in this situation not knowing anything about ur scoring set up. im assuming its something similar to a pts format. wideman has hit 50 pts before. this is white's 5th team in 3 years. that has to say something about a player. i feel that people are getting to excited about him right now because of his good start. i give the slight edge to wideman here because of his past history. wideman has averaged around 35pts per season and hit 50 once. white has never broke 26pts and they are only a year apart in age.

[donzzy]

Not that it matters too much but White actually scored 38pts. in 83 games splitting between Toronto and Calgary in 09/10.

[WingNutUpNorth]

Call me crazy, but I'd keep Wideman over White.

They are in similar situations but I think Wideman's is a little more favourable. The 75% of the time WAS is not rolling with 4 forwards on their PP, Wideman is on the top unit (Carlsson is not playing on the PP at all).

In Detroit, looks like White is splitting time with Kronwall on the PP.

It's not a huge difference, but I'd say Wideman because of his pedigree and also because he's on a team that will score a lot more goals in general.

I've seen White personally quite a bit from his days as a leaf and although he may be off to a good start, I really doubt he's in the same league as Wideman talent-wise.

I guess we'll see over the course of the season

Honestly,White is playing on PP1 beside Lids and also at ES as his defense partner.He has looked pretty good so far and he has the only right hand shot among the Wings D.He really isn't fighting Kronwall for anything.Kronner has mainly been on PP2 and the second pairing at ES.
To answer the question posed,it's White for me in a landslide

[dodospice]

I am thinking Ian White

[ross10019]

This is a really close one imo. Is it points only?

Both are in great situations. White is going to see tons of PPPs once that PP gets going, in the right handed shooter role. That said, Wideman is on PP1 right now and he's also a big shooter.

If plus / minus is a category, both should be good but I think White will have the edge. Wideman's been like a roller coaster in his career, althoguh on good teams he's usually been decent in this category.

If SOG is a category, Wideman has an edge there, but not by too much.

if blocked shots is a category, Wideman is significantly better although White is no slouch.

If your league weights goals more heavily, maybe Wideman, he's had 13, 13 and 10 in the past 4 years, that's pretty solid.

One issue with Wideman, if you judge by his experiences in Boston and Florida, is that he tends to start strong and then becomes less effective after his initial stint with a team. Just ask any Bruins fan how they felt when he was traded away, elated is probably an apt description. Might not happen in DC though, he's a pretty good fit on that team.

As for White, I wouldn't put any stock into the fact that he's been traded. In fact, I'd see it as a testament to his perceived value, the fact that he was traded basically for Phaneuf, then for Babchuk/Kostopolous, and then a contender like the Sharks gave up a 2nd rounder to get him for a critical playoff run and he produced nicely (43 point pace in the playoffs is impressive for a Dman). Check out this Bleacher Report article (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/6...for-the-sharks) from last year when he was traded to the Sharks, some good detail in there regarding what he brings, and I especially like the following statement:

"Most importantly, he’s also right-handed, meaning Niclas Wallin is no longer the “switch” defenceman. This will pay big dividends in keeping the power play continuity and pitching the puck deep where the Sharks want it. White will be able to play the puck at the point on his forehand, keeping the power play efficient and operating quickly. This may appear to be a small and minute fact for some people, but its effect on the power play can be profound."

I agree with this guy, and it will be the same in Detroit, he'll be a perfect complement to Lidstrom (he can't fill Rafalski's shoes but won't need to in order to produce for his owners).


That said, if I had to pick one, I'd say Wideman because he has a history or producing across a nice swath of categories, but I'd be pretty happy with either of these guys.