2011 eligible's vs others

[GelFlow]

How does the top 4 2011 forwards (Nugent-Hopkins, Couturier, Landesgog & Strome) blend in with the following prospects:

Tatar
Johansen Ryan
Kuznetsov
Schwartz
Panik
Kreider
Granlund

How would you rate them or how would you compare them points wise ?

Any input will be helpfull.

Cheers

[dyzfunctioned]

Points only, long time frame..

Granlund is my favorite... Panik doesn't belong in the conversation with the rest.

Granlund, RNH, Strome, Couturier, Johansen are probably my top 5.

[Brady19]

Again, I'll go long term...

RNH
Tatar
Landeskog
Couturier
Strome
-------- (Smallish gap)
Granlund
Schwartz
Johansen
Kuznetsov
Kreider

Short term I like: Johansen, Landeskog, and Tatar.

Panik is really entirely out of his league here... It's like putting Mason Raymond in a list of Crosby, Malkin, Stamkos.

[GelFlow]

Thanks for your advise ... anybody else want's to give it a try ?

Does Kabanov fit in this list ?

[Russian Rocket 10]

Points only, long time frame..

Granlund is my favorite... Panik doesn't belong in the conversation with the rest.

Granlund, RNH, Strome, Couturier, Johansen are probably my top 5.

Dyz, do you think Granlund will be a full-timer next season?
I'm looking to draft some real gems, and players like Granlund are still available along withe guys like Tarasenko, El Nino, Z. Boychuk, Tedenby, Calvert and Stepan.

Just wondering if you think Granlund is still a top prospect among these players.
...strictly speaking in a points-only format.

Cheers.

P.S. Sorry if I'm hi-jacking your thread, GelFlow.

[dakkster]

Of course the impending new draftees are the shiny new toys and get ranked higher. What have you done for me lately, etc. Completely laughable.

[dyzfunctioned]

Dyz, do you think Granlund will be a full-timer next season?
I'm looking to draft some real gems, and players like Granlund are still available along withe guys like Tarasenko, El Nino, Z. Boychuk, Tedenby, Calvert and Stepan.

Just wondering if you think Granlund is still a top prospect among these players.
...strictly speaking in a points-only format.

Cheers.

P.S. Sorry if I'm hi-jacking your thread, GelFlow.

I doubt he'll be a full-timer next year. 2012-13. But long term I'd rather have Granlund over all those guys. Stepan, Calvert, Tedenby, Boychuk, Nino will all have more impact next year obviously as Granlund won't be in the NHL I don't think.

[Russian Rocket 10]

I doubt he'll be a full-timer next year. 2012-13. But long term I'd rather have Granlund over all those guys. Stepan, Calvert, Tedenby, Boychuk, Nino will all have more impact next year obviously as Granlund won't be in the NHL I don't think.

Hmmm... Something to think about.
Cool.

Thanks.

[fantasyhockeygeek]

I actually think he's got a good shot to make an impact on an NHL roster next year.

Used to playing against men? Check - two years in the SM-liiga.
Used to playing on small ice? Check - from Finland, where the ice surface is actually slightly smaller than the NHL's.

Maybe he'll take some time to adjust to the skill of the game, but he's already used to playing with men and he's feisty as hell.

[wizworm]

Of course the impending new draftees are the shiny new toys and get ranked higher. What have you done for me lately, etc. Completely laughable.

So true... and so sad.

In leauges where you have a limited amount of draft picks, it's almost an advantage having multiple late round prospect picks. You can select guys at will that were un-drafted in previous years, are closer to the NHL, and are more proven at lower levels than the current "shiny new toy" that are so often hyped going into the draft.

That's why drafts are always re-evaluated a few years down the road and you read about all the "they should have selected Player B" instead of "Player A who was a bust" articles/posts. A year or two can actually make a big difference when players are drafted as 17-18 year olds. Having multiple late picks in a draft can actually help you when everyone else is trying to draft the "shiny new toy" and you're selecting un-drafted players from previous years who have had some time to develop and rise up the "must have charts" or can stay clear from after having fallen off that chart alltogether and are labelled "busts".