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    A tade in our 15-team Roto Keeper league took place over the holidays that has many of us wondering if it was a Christmas gift from on GM who is in last place to hi Son in law who is fighting for 1st place

    the scoring cats are:
    G,A,Pts.Dpts,+/-,PIMs

    we start 3C 3LW,3RW and 6Dmen daily.

    The trade was

    Callahan,Bieksa,M.Koivu and Tarasenko

    for

    Doughty and Hossa

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    Absolutely redonkulous!!! That is nowhere close to a fair trade. If the trade did not occur between family members.......
    10 team keeper league dress 4 LW, C, RW, 6 Def and 2 Goalies (gls and asts are a pt for fwds and 1.5 for Def, as is a +, but also -1 for a - forwards and -1 for "D", G - 2 pts for win, 5 for SO and pts for saves)
    LW - Landeskog, Robertson, E. Kane, Guentzel, Huberdeau, Kreider, Schwartz (C/RW)
    C - Stamkos, Zibanijad, Wright, Norris, Seguin (RW), Larkin, Zegras, Zary
    RW - Rantanen, Olofsson, Kuzmenko (LW), Sharangovich (LW/C), Laine, Arvidsson (LW)
    D - M. Anderson, Josi, S. Jones, Toews, Theodore, Faber, , Korchinski, Zellweger, Mintyukov, Larsson, H. Lindholm, K. Miller
    G - Andersen, Gustavsson, Saros, Vejmelka

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    That one stinks or at least smells funny. I hate any veto, and probably wouldn't vote on this one either, but I think it should be addressed. What do your league bylaws state?

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    Couldn't agree more. This one is extremely one sided... But I hate vetoing...
    10 team Keeper Roto league.
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    Keep 7
    Start 2C, 2 LW, 2 RW, 4D, 4U, 3G, 3BN

    C E Malkin, C Giroux, R Getzlaf, Bergeron, Hertl Dubinsky
    LW Panarin Voracek Marleau
    RW C Perry, Eberle, Neal
    D Klingberg Carlson Shattenkirk Hedman
    G MA Fleury, Dubnyk, Elliot, Varlamov

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    Not veteable. Bad deal but its not veto worthy

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    I think you'll find that every Dobberite hates vetoes, but I'd have to go there on this one given the family connection and their places in the standings.

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    Tough to veto (since Doughty's been slow, Hossa hurt, Callahan's overproducing, and Tarasenko has big upside -- it's possible he thought he was doing okay), but it's a bad deal.

    Looks more like someone fell for quantity over quality.
    Points-only, Full Keeper Dynasty League
    Active roster (no starts, just total points): 12 FW, 6 D, 1 Goalie

    Forwards: Kucherov, Barkov, Teravainen, Seguin, Hoffman, Lindholm, Gusev, Horvat, Meier, Perron, Schwartz, Johansen, Pavelski, Buchnevich, Hischier, Granlund, Bracco

    Defense: Josi, Dahlin, Letang, Gostisbehere, Ekman-Larsson, Petry, Slavin, Keith, Matheson

    Goal: Lehner, Holtby, Varlamov

    Farm: Soderstrom, York, Woo, Tracey, Dorofeyev

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    I definitely call them out for this one. At the very least, they will come back with something that is a bit closer to being fair.

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    I´d ask both gms to explain their intention and i ´d inform them, that i have a problem with this trade! Allthough veto isn´t a good tool here, every comish has to take care about his league. If trades like this happen between family members, you might see some guys quit.

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    Like Dennis said. Vetoing should only be used in an instance of cheating. I'd ask both guys why they did the trade. If neither of them panic or know exactly why they did it, leave it. However, it does smell fishy because the father IN LAW magically helped out the son in law...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis4022 View Post
    I´d ask both gms to explain their intention and i ´d inform them, that i have a problem with this trade! Allthough veto isn´t a good tool here, every comish has to take care about his league. If trades like this happen between family members, you might see some guys quit.
    Good points here. You don't want to come out an accuse anyone as it may have been a genuinely innocent trade. Just ask as Dennis said and see what each of their motives/reasons were.
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    I would agree with Stones thoughts.

    But hard to say more without all the details what do teams look like? positions and needs? Do you have prospects? Full keeper?

    I see the eye popper as Doughty here.
    Team 1:
    10 Team Keeper, keep 16.
    Cat: +/-, PIMs, G, A, Pts, STG (PPG+SHG), GAA, SPct, W
    Roto, No Max games, weekly lineups - 12F, 6D, 4G - 6 bench

    F: Benn, Bennett, Crosby, Hughes, Keller, Kopitar, Lindolm, Perron, Schmalts, Stephenson, Tavares, Thompson
    Bench - Lafreniere, Roslovic, Schenn

    D: Chabot, Dahlin, Josi, Hronek, Morrissey, Schenn
    Bench - Sandin

    G: F. Copley, Gustavsson, Skinner, Sorokin
    Bench: Merzlikins, Petersen, Andersen (IR)

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