View Poll Results: Should I deal Zherdev and J. Jokinen for Nash and Voracek?

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Thread: Nash and Voracek for Zherdev and J. Jokinen

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    I almost fell out of my chair. This is like discovering plutonium, by accident. I sure hope the deal went through. Oh My God. Wow.
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    I still think Nash is one of the most overvalued players in the NHL. He's good, but he's far from great.

    Nash's last 5 of his 7 seasons have looked like:

    54 pts in 54 games (PPG hockey, pretty good!)
    57pts in 75 games
    69pts in 80 games
    79pts in 78 games (first time in his career being OVER a PPG)
    67pts in 76 games

    Those are far from superstar stats to me... He's never even played 82 games in a season, yet I swear to god this guy is valued as a top 10 player by most people.

    Obviously in this trade he was valued as a ... I dunno, top 250 player or something... But typically you'd see something like Alex Semin for Nash type deals. Semin for example, had the 6th highest pool points per game in my league format, Nash was 29th.

    Not to say he won't ever break 80 points one day... Hitchcock is gone, all the excuses that "Nash Lovers" tend to make, yada yada... I just think this guy carries SO much more value than what he actually gives to your team. If I had him on my team I'd be using his inflated value to get me someone better.

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    I think he means he is giving up Nash and Voracek. I see Nash is in his signature. This is all too confusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shoeboxken View Post
    I think he means he is giving up Nash and Voracek. I see Nash is in his signature. This is all too confusing.
    Langen must have pulled the trigger and updated the status....
    As for Nash being overated...Voracek is still better than either Zherdev or Jussi so he is laughing.
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    who are the morons that keep adding "no" votes to this thread? come on

    I would like to know if this deal actually went through too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brady19 View Post
    I still think Nash is one of the most overvalued players in the NHL. He's good, but he's far from great.

    I TOTALLY AGREE, and had this conversation the other day!!!

    Most overrated forward treated like a superstar....Nash
    defenceman is guarenteed Bouwmeester but his hype is finally dying out
    goalie is Lundqvist.....he is so frustrating i just had to get rid of him

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    heck, I'd probably say yes to Voracek alone for J.Jokinen & Zherdev... You have a chance to score Nash on top of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Youngblood View Post
    who are the morons that keep adding "no" votes to this thread? come on

    I would like to know if this deal actually went through too
    I have to admit I was one of the "no" votes, but it was an accident... I sware. From the title I thought it was going the other way (I didn't read the survey question title), but I couldn't retract it. My Bad!
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    starting to wonder whats more amazing , the trade offer itself of the fact that this thread still has this much life to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by PPQB View Post
    I TOTALLY AGREE, and had this conversation the other day!!!

    Most overrated forward treated like a superstar....Nash
    defenceman is guarenteed Bouwmeester but his hype is finally dying out
    goalie is Lundqvist.....he is so frustrating i just had to get rid of him
    I agree with Nash & Bouwmeester, but Hank is awesome. Of course I'm bias, but if you watch enough NYR games you'd know he is the sole reason they get any points. Most nights, he just needs ~2 goals to get the win (usually both by Gaborik).

    Tortarella just sucks; he has a crappy system w/o the roster to back it and relies on Hank to pull their a$$es out of the fire night-in and night-out. He's rediculous on odd man rushes & the PK with his great lateral movement. He could use a much better glove hand though.

    Under Torts' new system and the team in front of him, I could be convinced that some of his fantasy stats may be hard to take for an elite goalie (W, GAA & SO), but in real life, I'd take him as a top 3 goalie in the whole league. With more goal support this year, I expect his stats to improve.
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    press the "accept" button!!
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    Accept that offer and run! Its a steal!

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    This thread refuses to GO AWAY and we have yet to hear from the OP about whether he got the deal done.....so frustrating.

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    Bringing it back......DID THIS TRADE EVENTUALLY GO THROUGH???

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    If this trade was offered but not accepted, I would expect LangenbrunnersDevils to punch himself in the nuts as punishment. Then again, I guess that not doing the deal is punishment enough.

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