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    Hey guys, looking for some advice on keepers. So I’m in a 9 team league with categories:
    G - 3 pts
    A - 2 pts
    PPP - 1 pt
    SHP - 2 pts
    SOG, H, BLK - 0.5
    We have four keepers, and i’m wondering which of the players listed in the title to keep. Thanks!

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    Default Re: Marner/Aho/Svechnikov/Makar/Pastrnak/Point/Zibanejad

    Are their positional requirements ?
    Yahoo! 10 Team Keep 6, H2H - 1 win
    G, A, SOG, PPP, FOW, H, B, Wins, GAA, Sv%, SHO
    4 weekly goalie appearances minimum
    2C, 2RW, 2LW, 1Ut, 4D, 3G, 6Bench, 2-I/R+, 1NA

    C: Bennett
    LW: E.Kane, Kaprizov
    LW/C: Draisaitl, Stutzle
    RW: Marner
    RW/C: T.Thompson, Necas
    RW/LW: Svechnikov
    D: Dahlin, Bouchard, Sergachev, Gudas
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    Default Re: Marner/Aho/Svechnikov/Makar/Pastrnak/Point/Zibanejad

    All very worthy of keeping in a keep 4 so it’s tough to make the cuts. For me zibby and point are the first to go then it’s between Marner and Aho for the final cut. I think I’d cut Marner so I’d keep

    Makar
    Svech
    Pasta
    Aho

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    Default Re: Marner/Aho/Svechnikov/Makar/Pastrnak/Point/Zibanejad

    This is a very tough one. Makar is a no brainer for me. After that Marner and Aho would be my next choices. Both are young guys and consistently end up near the top of the league in points. I think I'm cutting Zib here so it comes down to Svech/Pasta/Point. I personally am taking Pasta here with your cats. So my keepers are:

    Makar
    Marner
    Aho
    Pasta
    TEAM 1:

    C:
    MacKinnon, J. Hughes, Hintz, Scheifele
    LW: Connor, Panarin, Verhaeghe, Kubalik
    RW: Laine, Bratt, Kuzmenko, Lehkonen

    D: Josi, Burns, Chabot, Karlsson, Gostisbehere,
    Gustafsson
    G: Vanecek, Andersen
    BN: R. Smith,
    Cozens, Sheary, Backstrom
    IR: Skinner


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    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 2G, 1U. Plus 3 bench

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    Default Re: Marner/Aho/Svechnikov/Makar/Pastrnak/Point/Zibanejad

    Quote Originally Posted by Swarley View Post
    All very worthy of keeping in a keep 4 so it’s tough to make the cuts. For me zibby and point are the first to go then it’s between Marner and Aho for the final cut. I think I’d cut Marner so I’d keep

    Makar
    Svech
    Pasta
    Aho
    This is about right to me but i might swap out aho for marner. I think Point and Zibanajed are a tier below. You cannot drop Makar. Pasta I think is a no brainer as well. I think any two of Marner, Aho, Svech as the last pair could be argued for but would probably go Svech....and probablyyyyy Marner just because the name value is there i think more going forward.
    8tm Keep 7FWD,4D,1G
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    C,3LW,3RW,5D,2G (positional game played cap)
    G(3),A(2),+/-(1),PM(0.5),PPP(1),GW(1),S(0.4),W(4),SV(0.2),GA(-1),SO(2)
    C:Aho, Barkov, Pavelski(RW), Nugent-Hop(LW)
    R:Rantanen, Pasta, Konecny
    L:Guentzel, Gaudreau, Keller(RW), Benn
    D:Makar, Karlsson, Sergachev, Dobson, Hronek, Sanderson
    G:Vasilevskiy, Hart, Kuemper, Kotchetkov, Husso





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    What are their points so far in your league?

    Without that, Makar's a lock imo. Pasta is as well with g=3 and including points for sog. After that I'd want to get a stronger sense of total points each of these guys has in your league over the last year or 3.
    Yahoo 12-team H2H partial keeper league (keep 7 vets + 3 prospects (p = skater <201 gp; goalie < 101gp))

    G,A,P,PIM,+/-,PPP,SOG,FW,hits, blocks, W,GAA,SV%,Saves
    Start 3/3/3/5/2

    C: Kopitar, P. Suter, Carlsson (p), Lundell (p), Norris
    LW: B. Tkachuk, Stutzle (c), Colton (c), Ehlers
    RW: Rantanen, Caufield (lw), Svechnikov (lw), Foegele (lw)
    D: Dahlin, Andersson, Chychrun, Montour, Sanheim, Matheson, Faber (p)
    G: Talbot, Forsberg, Daws (p), Wolf (p, NA)
    IR: Fantilli, Sergachev, Jeannot, Ingram
    NA: Levi

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    league ranks for this year:
    Pasta 10
    Makar 19
    Svech 21
    Zibanejad 32
    Aho 35
    Marner 57

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    Quote Originally Posted by PrunusKanzan View Post
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 2G, 1U. Plus 3 bench

    Thanks for this info.
    Makar is a must
    Svechnikov, Pasta, Aho
    Marner
    ~~~~~~~~~
    Point, Zibanejad

    Makar then I’d be looking to use Point and Zibanejad with Svechnikov, Pastrnak, Aho, Marner in a 2 for 1 to upgrade any of
    Svech, Pasta, Aho, Marner.
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    4 weekly goalie appearances minimum
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    C: Bennett
    LW: E.Kane, Kaprizov
    LW/C: Draisaitl, Stutzle
    RW: Marner
    RW/C: T.Thompson, Necas
    RW/LW: Svechnikov
    D: Dahlin, Bouchard, Sergachev, Gudas
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    Default Re: Marner/Aho/Svechnikov/Makar/Pastrnak/Point/Zibanejad

    Quote Originally Posted by gmoney3 View Post
    This is a very tough one. Makar is a no brainer for me. After that Marner and Aho would be my next choices. Both are young guys and consistently end up near the top of the league in points. I think I'm cutting Zib here so it comes down to Svech/Pasta/Point. I personally am taking Pasta here with your cats. So my keepers are:

    Makar
    Marner
    Aho
    Pasta
    this is my list...
    14 Teams H2H Dynasty, 28 roster spots (8 bench), 15 minors under 100
    Weekly Matchups - Daily Lineups

    Skaters: G/A/Pt/PIM/SoG/STP/H+B/ToI/Corsi
    Goalies: W/GAA/SVs/SV%/SHO

    C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
    LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
    RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
    D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
    G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grapes View Post
    Thanks for this info.
    Makar is a must
    Svechnikov, Pasta, Aho
    Marner
    ~~~~~~~~~
    Point, Zibanejad

    Makar then I’d be looking to use Point and Zibanejad with Svechnikov, Pastrnak, Aho, Marner in a 2 for 1 to upgrade any of
    Svech, Pasta, Aho, Marner.
    I'm on board with this list. My top 3 are definitely Makar, Pasta and Svechnikov, then I'd probably keep Aho. If you can 2 for 1 like Grapes said, that'd be great because those are some tough drops.

    Weekly H2H, Points Only, Keeper League - 10 team - Keep 14 (+ 2 rookies, under 25 GP) - dress 12 F, 6 D, 2 G (Wins: 2 pts, OTL: 1 pt, SO: 1 pt) - 30 Roster max w/ 1 IR spot which opens up one roster spot.

    FW: Aho, Eichel, Draisatl, Rantanen, Marchand, Matthews, Kyrou, J. Robertson, Bergeron, Duchene, Boldy, Toffoli, Kempe, Krejci, Schmaltz

    D: Rielly, Heiskenen, Dobson, Drysdale, Byram, Nurse, Weegar, Matheson, Clarke

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    Default Re: Marner/Aho/Svechnikov/Makar/Pastrnak/Point/Zibanejad

    Makar
    Marner
    Aho
    Pasta / Svech (I worry about the Bs, Marchand and Bergeron are not getting any younger and thy don’t have a true second line center. That’s going to put more pressure on Pasta and allow teams to focus more on shutting him down as the Bs core starts to age out).
    12 Team Weekly H2H, Daily Lineups. Keep 7 + 1 Prospect (<164 NHL games).
    Scoring:
    PLAYER: G(3), A(2), D Pts(addt'l 0.7), +/-(0.5), PPP(addt'l 1), SHP(addt'l 0.5), SOG(0.4), BLK(0.8)
    GOALIE: W(2), GA(-1.5), Saves(0.3), SO(3)
    Positions - 3C, 2RW, 2LW, 4D, 2G, 5 Bench, 4 IR, 1 prospect

    C - J Hughes(LW), Hintz, Malkin, Pinto
    LW - M Tkachuk(RW), Robertson
    RW - Rust, Necas, Zuccarello
    D - Makar, Fox, Bouchard, Roy, Krug
    G - Oettinger, Thompson, Wedgewood
    Prospect Keeper - L Hughes(D)
    IR - Hill(G)

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    Default Re: Marner/Aho/Svechnikov/Makar/Pastrnak/Point/Zibanejad

    Makar
    Pasta
    Svechnikov are locks

    I had to look close to realize hits is a 0.5 point category for you. maybe edit the OP to say "HIT" instead of "H". so G - 3 pts
    A - 2 pts
    PPP - 1 pt
    SHP - 2 pts
    SOG, HIT, BLK - 0.5

    With those Categories, Svechnikov's value jumps enormously and Makar, who was already a no brainer, is even better. Svech averages 3.5 SOG and 2.25 hits per game. He will compile points even if he goes scoreless, and he is hot as heck right now.
    Pasta averages 4.35 SOG per game.

    Zibanejad and Point do not register as well on this scale. That leaves Marner vs Aho
    Which is a coin flip for you. They are close enough in stats that you can decide if you want to stack 2 Carolina players or separate them. They are the exact same age and both on strong teams.

    Based on their current stats on your scoring system.
    Marner = 246 in 45 games
    Aho = 265 in 50 games

    Aho is an Iron man and rarely misses time. Marner has missed 5 games his rookie season, 11 games in 2019-20, and 9 games this year so far, but nothing truly worrisome.


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    Default Re: Marner/Aho/Svechnikov/Makar/Pastrnak/Point/Zibanejad

    I think Makar, Pasta, and Svech are locks given the sog and hits bonuses.

    For me the 4th is between Marner and Zibs. Marner over Aho bc C is deeper.

    Zibs performance this year is probably his floor, and his performance 2 years ago his ceiling.

    I suspect his season 2 years ago and the second half of last season were probably the best Fppg stretches for any of these players. I’d probably roll the dice on Zibs myself.
    Yahoo 12-team H2H partial keeper league (keep 7 vets + 3 prospects (p = skater <201 gp; goalie < 101gp))

    G,A,P,PIM,+/-,PPP,SOG,FW,hits, blocks, W,GAA,SV%,Saves
    Start 3/3/3/5/2

    C: Kopitar, P. Suter, Carlsson (p), Lundell (p), Norris
    LW: B. Tkachuk, Stutzle (c), Colton (c), Ehlers
    RW: Rantanen, Caufield (lw), Svechnikov (lw), Foegele (lw)
    D: Dahlin, Andersson, Chychrun, Montour, Sanheim, Matheson, Faber (p)
    G: Talbot, Forsberg, Daws (p), Wolf (p, NA)
    IR: Fantilli, Sergachev, Jeannot, Ingram
    NA: Levi

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    Default Re: Marner/Aho/Svechnikov/Makar/Pastrnak/Point/Zibanejad

    Chiming in again.

    Can’t go wrong with Makar, Pastrnak, Svechnikov.
    That leaves Marner, Aho, point & Zibanejad. Try to package them into a better keeper than Marner, Aho, Zibanejad.
    If you can’t pull that off, then I think it’s personal choice between Marner, Aho. I can see a case either way here.

    Too many potential keepers and assets to improve those keepers is a nice problem to have.
    Good luck.
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    C: Bennett
    LW: E.Kane, Kaprizov
    LW/C: Draisaitl, Stutzle
    RW: Marner
    RW/C: T.Thompson, Necas
    RW/LW: Svechnikov
    D: Dahlin, Bouchard, Sergachev, Gudas
    G: Vasilevskiy , Skinner, Gustavsson



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