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    Each of the eight teams remaining in the playoffs boast a young stud cornerstone defenseman - all 25 or younger. If you were building a franchise from scratch, what order would you draft them:

    Vegas- Shea Theodore (25)
    Vancouver - Quinn Hughes (20)
    Colorado - Cale Makar (21)
    Dallas - Miro Heiskanen (21)

    Philadelphia - Ivan Provorov (23)
    NY Islanders - Ryan Pulock (25)
    Tampa Bay - Mikhail Sergachev (22)
    Boston - Charlie McAvoy (22)

    Considering best overall defensemen, not fantasy upside.

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    Heiskanen
    Provorov
    Makar/Hughes
    Theodore
    McAvoy
    Pulock
    Sergachev
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    Heiskanen
    Makar
    Hughes
    Theodore
    Sergachev
    Provorov
    McAvoy
    Pulock
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    Provorov
    McAvoy
    Makar
    Heiskanen
    Hughes
    Theodore
    Pulock
    Sergachev

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    Provorov
    Heiskanen
    Theodore
    Makar
    Hughes
    McAvoy
    Pulock
    Sergachev
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    Makar
    Theodore
    Heiskanen
    Provorov
    Hughes
    Sergachev
    McAvoy
    Pulock

    Some, obviously subjective. Quinn Hughes lower than others ranked him based upon poor multicat statistics, and watching him struggle against Vegas. I actually think Pulock deserves better, but he won’t be #1 on his own team in two years... McAvoy seems to need Chara to play behind him, too many “misses.” I’ll draft Makar or Theodore earlier than some other GM’s, and I’ll be happy with that choice for years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Brad View Post
    Makar
    Theodore
    Heiskanen
    Provorov
    Hughes
    Sergachev
    McAvoy
    Pulock

    Some, obviously subjective. Quinn Hughes lower than others ranked him based upon poor multicat statistics, and watching him struggle against Vegas. I actually think Pulock deserves better, but he won’t be #1 on his own team in two years... McAvoy seems to need Chara to play behind him, too many “misses.” I’ll draft Makar or Theodore earlier than some other GM’s, and I’ll be happy with that choice for years.
    I took it as real life rankings over fantasy.
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    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    Ehh - - perception = reality, no??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Brad View Post
    Ehh - - perception = reality, no??
    I definitely view some players differently for real life vs fantasy value when it comes to who I'd build my team around.
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    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    This question was an excellent one by sweetcelly. I put them in the order I think I would want them in real life, trying to balance offensive ability with defensive skills. Two of you put Provorov as the number one guy. I may need to watch more Philly games as I had him sixth. I need to watch more games of these guys to help me with a more informed ranking. Much of mine was based on limited game observations and fantasy numbers while trying to keep real life game play in mind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Comish View Post
    This question was an excellent one by sweetcelly. I put them in the order I think I would want them in real life, trying to balance offensive ability with defensive skills. Two of you put Provorov as the number one guy. I may need to watch more Philly games as I had him sixth. I need to watch more games of these guys to help me with a more informed ranking. Much of mine was based on limited game observations and fantasy numbers while trying to keep real life game play in mind.
    Ya I think Pro-V is the real deal, future Norris candidate for sure, I would have him up near the top as well. Plays in all situations, and handles the big minutes.

    If I was starting a franchise from scratch I would want to build around him.

    Heiskanen
    Provorov
    Theodore
    Makar
    Hughes


    McAvoy
    Sergachev
    Pulock

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    Real life I'd rank them as:
    Miro
    Prob
    Makar
    Hughes
    Serg
    McAvoy
    Pulock
    Theodore

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    Quote Originally Posted by roenick27 View Post
    Real life I'd rank them as:
    Miro
    Prob
    Makar
    Hughes
    Serg
    McAvoy
    Pulock
    Theodore
    You're sleeping on Theodore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eskimo Brother View Post
    You're sleeping on Theodore
    Maybe. I'm just not sold on his all around game as much as some of the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roenick27 View Post
    Maybe. I'm just not sold on his all around game as much as some of the others.

    I would read the article that the Athletic wrote about him on March 9th. It discusses just how impressive Theodore’s offense AND defense has become. Here is a taste, ‘Theodore leads every defenseman in the NHL in Corsi percentage (58.54), expected goal share (58.75) and scoring chance share (59.69).’

    It goes on to discuss how his all around game is even more impressive.

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