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I appreciate you Comish. You are one of my favorite guys around here. And I want to say I am not singling you out. Rather, I have been staying quiet for a while now but seeing a lot of non-Americans (I love the foreign) have been commenting about our situation. Its your right. But you need to know that its way past manners and decency. Its a Cold Civil War. This country is a powder keg inside an ammo dump wrapped in a few thousand tons of ammonium nitrate fertilizer. Trump is tossing live grenades into it wondering what will happen. Trump has buried 180K people without batting an eye. Guess how many he will bury to hold on to power? I think we are going to find out.
Nearly everyone aside from pure pacifists agree there is a time when violence is needed and required. You're seeing more and more people getting to that point in the USA and I cant say I blame them. I just hope not too many people die. So many good Americans out there.
The problem with violence in the US compare to most develop country is that there is a SHIT ton of guns
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I disagree with much of this, and I'd wager I've hated Trump longer than anyone on this board. Since that started in 1983, it's gonna take some doing to beat. In short, he was the Jerry Jones (Dallas Cowboys owner) of the USFL, without the winning.
1. Trump isn't a full blown fascist, he's a Trumpist. He's all about popularity & power, but he has no real political ideals regarding getting an entire nation ready for actual war. However, given the party he's currently allied with (he's unsurprisingly been both) that's what makes sense. As far as the cult of popularity, absolutely.
2. I have a big problem with assaulting someone for whom they choose to vote for. Once you fail to have the freedom to choose whom you vote for, there is a huge problem, which actually leads down the road to a totalitarian one-party state, one of the flavors of which is fascism.
3. The origins of the political parties as cults predates Trump. The Republicans go back to at least the Moral Majority movement. We really started to see this divide ramp up in the 1990's.
If voting for a member of any single poilitical party got me punched, the entire population of the US who would care to do so could punch me. I vote for members of 3+ parties in general elections, normally. My personal record is 5 + one independent.
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Absolutely agree that there comes a time when violence is needed. I just can't help but feel that the American public is being manipulated for political purposes. Right now, more than ever, true leadership is needed and that has truly been lacking in American politics (don't get me started on Canadian politicians!).
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Would again just like to point out that we have not been provided any evidence that a punch occurred.
Well. We’re discussing it like it’s a thing that happened. It seems pretty topical to discuss whether or not it actually happened, since we haven’t seen any evidence of the damage, no arrests or charges have been filed, and Couture seemingly walked back whether it happened.
“So I just deserve to get punched if someone disagrees with my politics?” Well, no, but from all appearances that didn’t happen here so we don’t really need to pretend it did. At this point, an arrest would have been made if it did.
My understanding was that he walked back what he said about it... I did not think he had walked back whether it happened.
And you are right, there likely would have been a report or arrest, unless he decided not to press charges because he didn't want any further publicity from it. Or maybe he realized it takes two to tango and that he was just as much in the wrong as the other guy that potentially punched him.While I did not do a good job of communicating my thoughts earlier today, I do believe that everyone is entitled to their own voice and opinions," Couture wrote in a lengthy message posted on his Twitter account Wednesday. "But regardless of what anyone believes -- and to be clear, I do not believe in supporting Donald Trump -- responding with violence isn't the answer and doesn't solve anything.
"I regret the decision to make this incident public. I apologize to the Sharks, as well as my family for having to deal with this. I hold myself to a high standard, and I apologize for any of my comments that were poorly worded and do not reflect my true feelings or beliefs. I appreciate those who have reached out to me with their concern."
I thought what he walking back was his comments to Sportsnet and his comments about talking politics resulting in violence. His tweet that is him apologizing mentions 'that violence isn't the answer and doesn't solve anything' which is what lead me to think that something did actually happen.
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Steve I appreciate your points. But we are dealing with something very abnormal. A once in a lifetime confluence of events that resembles the 1930s more each day. Homeless and jobless everywhere. Clashes in the streets between police and paramilitaries on one side and mostly centrist peaceful protestors on the other. The Q is the new swastika. The red MAGA hat is the new brown shirt. Fascists dont respect civil disobedience or non-violent movements. Fascists cling on to power despite all efforts to extract them, violent and otherwise. Trump styles himself to be a Franco or Pinochet (or Putin), half-joking about a lifetime term.
Many years ago when I was only 17, I swore the oath to support protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic. It doesnt matter that I havent been in the Marine Corps for two decades. The Corps' motto is Semper Fidelis. Its Latin and it means "Always Faithful." ALWAYS. Faithful to what? The Constitution. The freedom and national security of the people. Fascism is where I draw a big fat line in the sand.
It has to be stopped here. This election is American democracy's last ditch.
I wish I was being theatrical and overexaggerating. But I'm not. And I am not alone. There is a reason why its hard to buy an AR in the USA now. Supplies of firearms and ammo in the marketplace are slim to none. Civilian purchases of weaponry are at a stratospheric all-time high. The opposing camps are arming themselves. Reminds me of the first scene from Gangs of New York but with 21st Century firepower. Remember the second scene?