Barzal has an elite ceiling that we only got a taste/tease of in his rookie year. You lose some periphs. but the offensive gap IMO more than justifies making this move.
I would do it in a heartbeat.
I was wondering if Cirelli for Barzal would be an upgrade for me? I would be getting Barzal and here are the categories for skaters:
Thanks for the feedback in advance
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Barzal has an elite ceiling that we only got a taste/tease of in his rookie year. You lose some periphs. but the offensive gap IMO more than justifies making this move.
I would do it in a heartbeat.
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Take the deal and run, no matter the format imo.
Points-only keeper league. 12 teams. Keep any 12 players. Dress 12F - 6D - 2G.
It would depend on the rest of your roster and your teams strengths and weaknesses. Both have certain attributes that the other doesn't. Overall, Barzal is the better player but there's things that Cirelli can do better.
Why do YOU think this is a fair trade? What are you seeing that is making you consider it?
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, SBennett
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
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10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, SBennett
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
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I see. Important info when asking for advice.
Seeing your full roster would certainly help as well.
I will say that Barzal will definitely cost a lot more, cap wise, compared to Cirelli. Both need new deals for next season. I assume this is a big reason the other GM is considering doing this as well. He's afraid of whats coming once this all gets going again.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, SBennett
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
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he's in major trouble cap wise, as he's barely under the cap with like one million to spare. I will have like 10-11 million with only Cirelli's extension to worry about. Here's my full team.
Centers: Cirelli, Johansen, Geekie (streamer), Couture (IR+)
Left Wing: Draisaitl, Neiderreiter, Vatrano, Crouse, Drouin (IR+)
Right Wing: Carrier, Kassian, Zuccarello, Archibald (streamer)
Defense: De Haan (dropping him soon), Lindell, Morrissey, Subban (BUYOUT), Werenski.
Goalies: NYI and LA tandems.
I already know what i will be doing once rosters open up again, also I have a 1st rounder that if my lottery goes right I would be able to add Lafreniere.
Here's the thing for me. Cirelli is a really good player and depending on the contract he signs, could see his value go up even more if he signs a team friendly deal (which to be honest, happens more times than not in TB). If he's in cap hell, make a trade that benefits you more than it benefits him. You'd be helping him already in the cap department so why help his roster too.
I'd be more willing to send him someone like Drouin for Barzal than I would Cirelli. He might not like the offer, but you aren't the one scrambling to make a deal either so it's no sweat off your bag if he doesn't like it. You still have a very good piece in Cirelli.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, SBennett
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
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if he's in that much cap trouble... you might be able to make it a 2-2 - move Drouin for someone with a slightly higher salary but is justifiably earning it.
Something in the 6-6.5m range. Maybe a Dman since you're dumping De Haan & PK
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