On TB, he is.
On Vegas/Calgary/other team not named TB signing him in offseason, doubtful.
Every goalie is affected by the quality of their defenders in front of them...but Bishop seems to be affected more than most.
is he still looked upon as an elite goalie? i got him in my pts keeper league, 14 team 24 player roster top 12 forward top 4 d top 1 goalie and i have
Braden Holtby
Ben Bishop
Connor Hellebuyck
Jusse Saros
On TB, he is.
On Vegas/Calgary/other team not named TB signing him in offseason, doubtful.
Every goalie is affected by the quality of their defenders in front of them...but Bishop seems to be affected more than most.
14-team Keeper w/custom salary cap
Keep btw 12-14, excl. Minors
Skater cats (weight): G (1.75), A (1.75), +/- (0.75), Hits (0.75), BS (0.75)
Goalie cats: W (0.25), GAA (1.00), SV% (1.00)
C : Colton Jenner Frost Novak ---Rossi Cooley MSavoie Fantilli Carlsson Yager
LW: Caufield Fiala Hagel Nichushkin ---Musty
RW: Tippett Necas Brink Kakko ---Yurov Lysell Stankoven ECowan Lekkerimaki
D : Theodore Seider Chabot Gostisbehere Liljegren Carlo ---Edvinsson
G : Montembault Hart ---Commesso Augustine
Bench/IR: Zellweger Fehervary
2024 entry draft picks: 3 1sts
2025: 2 1sts, 2 2nds, 1 3rd
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ah, bishop was in FA, other players available at the time was bergeron, kaprizov were next on my list then kappy and begeron got taken 2nd round, i later acquired bergeron in a trade though. fabbri for bergeron
In your scoring he doesn't supplant Holtby... Re his value moving forward it depends where he lands but right now he has had an off year and nothing more IMO
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In your scoring he doesn't supplant Holtby... Re his value moving forward it depends where he lands but right now he has had an off year and nothing more IMO
Experience is the teacher of all things.
Yes, he is. As much as D, systems and coaching, affect goalies, talent does as well. This is a blip on the radar for Bishop. He is still an elite talent. I think this season is just a hard one for the whole Tampa team. I would write it off. If he goes to CGY, they could be a heck of a lot better in a hurry, even with GluGlu at the helm. When is he getting fired again?
Blades of Steel
9 Team Full Keeper - Pts Only (G,A,W,SO)
Crosby, Wheeler, Bergeron, Forsberg, Connor, Kopitar, E.Lindholm, Pastrnak, DeBrincat, Fiala
Jones, Klingberg, Hamilton, Theodore, Letang
Saros, Shesterkin
Garland, Vrana, Bjorkstrand, Verhaege, Backstrom, Karlsson, Perunovich, Spurgeon, Pulock, Hellebuyck
was i right for picking bishop over kaprizov? kappy got taken 2nd round in our mid season draft but i got gusev with my 2nd round pick.
any chance Stl brings in Ben Bishop and trades off Jake Allen? As a Ben Bishop fan i can only hope lol.
1) yes. Kaprizov is "a ways ovv" from the nhl. Bishop is a top 5 talent goalie in the nhl.
2) no chance. they have made their bed with Allen and it will be a very comfy bed, long-term.
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1) yes. Kaprizov is "a ways ovv" from the nhl. Bishop is a top 5 talent goalie in the nhl.
2) no chance. they have made their bed with Allen and it will be a very comfy bed, long-term.
Blades of Steel
9 Team Full Keeper - Pts Only (G,A,W,SO)
Crosby, Wheeler, Bergeron, Forsberg, Connor, Kopitar, E.Lindholm, Pastrnak, DeBrincat, Fiala
Jones, Klingberg, Hamilton, Theodore, Letang
Saros, Shesterkin
Garland, Vrana, Bjorkstrand, Verhaege, Backstrom, Karlsson, Perunovich, Spurgeon, Pulock, Hellebuyck
He never was. He was elite for fantasy due to the team around him. But he never had elite talent.
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absolutely not. There were a lot of signs suggesting he'd have a short shelf life. If he was an elite talent with his size, he'd be winning Vezinas every year. He is an average NHL goalie talent wise, IMO, which is fine.
I don't feel Bishop is a high-end goalie talent-wise but that hardly means anything when it comes to numbers. Things like environment, opportunity and momentum are huge. Just ask Petr Budaj.
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I don't feel Bishop is a high-end goalie talent-wise but that hardly means anything when it comes to numbers. Things like environment, opportunity and momentum are huge. Just ask Petr Budaj.
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what is Ben Bishops value in a 14 team pts only league, 24 player roster, top 12 forwards, top 4 d, top 1 goalie count for points? i need a d man....is he worth a player like Pietrangelo? Morgan Rielly?