just spit balling .......Brodin sat out last night (flu or ?)
Minney is alot closer than van,edm,cal in relation to the Peg.
Snow/Fletch have some trade history
Chiarelli needs to go ALL IN on this deal. They need defence and need it bad. Man what a good fit it would be though
just spit balling .......Brodin sat out last night (flu or ?)
Minney is alot closer than van,edm,cal in relation to the Peg.
Snow/Fletch have some trade history
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Is there a chance that Hamonic is not as good in the West as he is in the East? I still think he is very valuable, but playing 2/3 of the year against the bigger west centers and the fact that he is requesting a trade out of NY, imo kinda makes his value lower. I would not trade Klef or Nurse for this guy straight up. For Edm to get any better we need to be replacing Fayne with Hamonic... by trading Yakupov in a package. I also think that Chia knows this hence why a deal hasnt taken place already.
Yak/Fayne/1st rndpick(2016 or 2017 Oilers choice)
for
Hamonic/Czizkas/4th rnd pick(in same year we send 1st rnder)
In related fantasy world..... I just traded Spooner/4th rnd for Hamonic/1st rnd..... hope he lands somewhere good!
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Nice take, but they don't touch on the fact of how fantastic Hamonic's contract and cap hit are, which have a meaningful affect on his value. You're not just paying for the player here, you're also paying for that excellent cap hit, because the Isles won't be getting nearly as friendly a cap hit in return.
Im not sure that trade makes sense...Maybe (I'd guess it would be a stretch) Yak/Fayne for Hamonic/Cizikas/4th could work. But no way EDM adds a 1st or anything close to that. Well maybe they would, but not I...lol
Yak has disappointed, but he's still a recent 1st overall. I believe that it does carry some weight in negotiations, even when the talent says otherwise (and I think Yak still has potential to be a good but not great player).
Being a first overall 4 years ago doesn't matter anymore. There's at least a reasonable argument that Cizakas is a better player right now than Yak. Edmonton would be adding to that deal, not the Islanders. "Our garbage for your good players" Isn't really a reasonable trade proposal for NHL GMs
Oilers need D, yes, but Hamonic isn't the stud they desperately need.
If the price doesn't make sense they can and should wait.
Especially if, like suggested in this thread, they 'need' to make a splash and trade Eberle (which wouldn't be smart) they should and can wait for a defender who is better than just Hamonic, a top 4 guy.
To sum it up. Do they need D help? Of course. Should they make a splash? Debatable. Should the splash be on Hamonic? Absolutely not.
when is a D better than hamonic going to be available? rarely do you see top 2 dmen available. and if/when it happens, it would cost a heck of a lot more than eberle. the oilers have been waiting for how many years to get better? if they need to overpay then so be it, they have so many good assets from drafting high every year, it's time to do something about it and get the team into the playoffs.
Don't know when a D better than Hamonic will be available. Who thought he would be available this year? These things happens, players become available. That is why you want to be opportunistic and not blow your load on the Hamonic's of the NHL. I don't think splashing on Hamonic is opportunistic. I think Edmonton made the same mistakes in free agency.
They said hey, Mark Fayne is available. Not great but we need help now. How many years have we been waiting for to get better? Fayne will help, right? Lets sign him! MISTAKE. You could say the same about Sekera. At least those didn't cost you any assets.
I agree that being a 1st overall 4 years ago doesnt really hold water. No way in my scenario is Edm adding anymore, the 1st rnder(likely to be in 2017) is the add. The NYI are not holding the cards here, Hamonic has limited Snow's moves with the request to a West team.....
And to say Cizakis is agruably better than Yak...ok, I can argue that he isnt. Cizakis is not and will never be a top 6 guy, he is extremely valuable in a 3rd line role and a great penalty killer. Yak paired with the right guys is a trigger man in a top 6 role, as shown by time with McDavid. So ill stick to my scenario of being fair market value.
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I've questioned this too, the media is all over him being a top 2 guy, just like Sekera. He would be a good piece on the Oil though.
Hamonic avg TOI is 23:20 30th in NHL
Boychuk avg TOI is 21:53 54th in NHL
Leddy avg TOI is 21:22 64th in NHL
However Hamonic doesnt play as much special teams as Leddy/Boychuk. You can read alot into those numbers both ways, i guess the big thing is he eats up alot of 5v5 mins, which the Oilers really need.
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