Advice needed

[Dreamer]

In a salary cap keeper, I have only 6 722 000$ to spend for the RFA Larsson, Huberdeau and C. Wilson

Points only league...12 forwards, 5 defense and 2 goalie counts.

What do you go for? Trading Skinner? Trading one of my goalie?
How many points do you think each oh them will have in 2015-2016?

Stamkos 5 500 000
Hopkins 6 000 000
Jordan Eberle 6 000 000
Evander Kane 6 000 000
Huberdeau RFA
Mikael Granlund 2 800 000
Gustav Nyquist 4 000 000
Nail Yakupov 2 500 000
Colin Wilson RFA
Jeff Skinner 6 000 000
Tyler Ennis 4 750 000
Drouin 925 000
Kuznetsov 2 400 000
Tomas Hertl 925 000
Sam Reinhart 925 000
Patrick Sharp 5 500 000

Alex Pietrangelo 6 500 000
Morgan Rielly 833 000
Dougie Hamilton 5 500 000
Adam Larsson RFA
Seth Jones 925 000
Derrick Pouliot 833 000

Tuukka Rask 7 500 000
Jonathan Quick 7 000 000
John Gibson 787 000

[Axeman33]

Skinner isn't worth his salary in my eyes.

I am not sure what kind of return you will get for him in a cap league, but he would be an easy casualty for me if you need cap space.

[RangerFan]

I agree with Axeman. Skinner is the 1st name that jumps out at me. I would try to move him for a couple of good prospects.

[Dreamer]

The problem is that nobody want Skinner. All the DG are limited in the cap space. I will probably dump it!

[Bass56]

The problem is that nobody want Skinner. All the DG are limited in the cap space. I will probably dump it!

Sometimes, you are better off getting little to nothing for a player that gobbles up too much cap, rather than keeping him and moving a better asset for an inferior return. Everything is relative of course but in this case, Skinner is the bad apple of the bunch... In order to move him, try to target a team that owns another big salary player that is not performing i.e. Clarkson (don't get me wrong, Skinner IS performing to a certain extent but he is just not worth those $$$). If you flip Skinner for that player (who you will drop) + other assets such as picks or prospects, than you could be getting a decent return rather than nothing.

[Pengwin7]

In pure-points leagues with salaries... you want to get at least 10pts/$1m out of your players.

I highly doubt that Evander Kane can get 60pts (to justify his $6m).
I highly doubt that Jeff Skinner can get 60pts (to justify his $6m).

Look to offer Evander Kane (BUF) to the Ryan O'Reilly (BUF) owner.
Look to move Jeff Skinner (CAR) to anybody owning a good CAR player (E.Staal, Lindholm, Faulk).

The trade market for Skinner is at an all time low.
You may have to end up practically giving him away - which isn't awful as he isn't worth his price.


Extra Note:
In these types of leagues, most NHL defensemen are not going to give you good return.
In the real NHL, guys like AP & D.Hamilton are paid based on their defense...
In your league, the only stats they give you are points.

If AP can't score 65pts (and won't), then he's not worth keeping at $6.5m
If D.Hamilton doesn't score 55pts (and won't), then he's not worth keeping at $5.5m
I'd much rather keep E.Kane at $6m than AP at $6.5m.

I'd actually prefer to keep forwards in these leagues and run with a bottom-barrel D-corps.
Even $2m D-men that give you 20+pts are hitting the 10pts/$1m mark.
Rundblads and Y.Webers are probably better owns in this league than guys like Pietrangelo.

[roenick27]

In a points only salary set up I would agree with the others about Kane and Skinner , but would also shop:
AP. I don't think hes worth his salary in a cap league.
Dougie if you can get a similar point producing Dman back at a lesser salary. Think Krug etc and you could save 2M there.
One of Quick/Rask also, but how do the Goalies count in a points only league?


Edit:
I didn't see the bottom of P7's post. He pretty much summed it up well in what he wrote

[Dreamer]

In a points only salary set up I would agree with the others about Kane and Skinner , but would also shop:
AP. I don't think hes worth his salary in a cap league.
Dougie if you can get a similar point producing Dman back at a lesser salary. Think Krug etc and you could save 2M there.
One of Quick/Rask also, but how do the Goalies count in a points only league?


Edit:
I didn't see the bottom of P7's post. He pretty much summed it up well in what he wrote

2 points for a win and 4 points for a shootout

Thanks a lot for your comments!!!

[jmouland]

Are those cap hits supposed to be actual NHL or based on some auction numbers? Most look actual. If so, Sharp's actual should be 5.9 though, Nyquist should be 4.75. I hope it was just a couple of typos and you didn't just lose another million + in cap space...

I'd shop Sharp. Shopping Skinner is great and all but no one is going to take on that salary. You could benefit from the post-trade hype around Sharp and get a good asset back in return.

[Big Baby]

In pure-points leagues with salaries... you want to get at least 10pts/$1m out of your players.

I highly doubt that Evander Kane can get 60pts (to justify his $6m).
I highly doubt that Jeff Skinner can get 60pts (to justify his $6m).

Look to offer Evander Kane (BUF) to the Ryan O'Reilly (BUF) owner.
Look to move Jeff Skinner (CAR) to anybody owning a good CAR player (E.Staal, Lindholm, Faulk).

The trade market for Skinner is at an all time low.
You may have to end up practically giving him away - which isn't awful as he isn't worth his price.


Extra Note:
In these types of leagues, most NHL defensemen are not going to give you good return.
In the real NHL, guys like AP & D.Hamilton are paid based on their defense...
In your league, the only stats they give you are points.

If AP can't score 65pts (and won't), then he's not worth keeping at $6.5m
If D.Hamilton doesn't score 55pts (and won't), then he's not worth keeping at $5.5m
I'd much rather keep E.Kane at $6m than AP at $6.5m.

I'd actually prefer to keep forwards in these leagues and run with a bottom-barrel D-corps.
Even $2m D-men that give you 20+pts are hitting the 10pts/$1m mark.
Rundblads and Y.Webers are probably better owns in this league than guys like Pietrangelo.

Pengwin7 nailed it as usual.

[YzermansLegacy]

In pure-points leagues with salaries... you want to get at least 10pts/$1m out of your players.

I highly doubt that Evander Kane can get 60pts (to justify his $6m).
I highly doubt that Jeff Skinner can get 60pts (to justify his $6m).

Look to offer Evander Kane (BUF) to the Ryan O'Reilly (BUF) owner.
Look to move Jeff Skinner (CAR) to anybody owning a good CAR player (E.Staal, Lindholm, Faulk).

The trade market for Skinner is at an all time low.
You may have to end up practically giving him away - which isn't awful as he isn't worth his price.


Extra Note:
In these types of leagues, most NHL defensemen are not going to give you good return.
In the real NHL, guys like AP & D.Hamilton are paid based on their defense...
In your league, the only stats they give you are points.

If AP can't score 65pts (and won't), then he's not worth keeping at $6.5m
If D.Hamilton doesn't score 55pts (and won't), then he's not worth keeping at $5.5m
I'd much rather keep E.Kane at $6m than AP at $6.5m.

I'd actually prefer to keep forwards in these leagues and run with a bottom-barrel D-corps.
Even $2m D-men that give you 20+pts are hitting the 10pts/$1m mark.
Rundblads and Y.Webers are probably better owns in this league than guys like Pietrangelo.

Yet another +1 to Peng.

Honestly Dreamer, follow this advice to the letter and you'll be reaping the rewards in short order.

[horseflyhab]

I agree with Penguin7 and would add that Hamilton would be a good player to shop around. He has some excitement around him and could get you a best possible return while saving big money.

I traded Hammy and picked up Galchenyuk. Of course the GM I traded with had won McDavid with only a 15% in the lottery draft, so he was in a little more pliable mood than normal.

[Dreamer]

Thanks to all! :-)

[GoNucks]

I would look to move Skinner but doubt any takers....or just very lowball offers.

I would explore moving Kane, for 6 mil thats too much and people will pay a lot for the Eichel hype.

I would also look to trade RNH. He is now the #2 C in Edm and at 6 mil thats a lot to have Yakupov as a wingman there.