Reply With QuoteWhat Kane? Evander or Patty?
Possible Trade For Kane
Right now I am top 5 in a Scoresheet simulation league - basically G, A and +/- are main value for skaters.
At Center, I am sitting on Malkin, Bergeron, McKinnon, Strome, Nelson and Ribero (we start three each week)
I have Kessel and Nyquist at RW and very little at left (Elias/Soderberg/CWilson/Comeau).
I am thinking Kane might be a worthwhile target right now and the owner with Kane has Marleau. Does Malkin for Kane/Marleau make sense (if I can get it done)?
Fantrax 8 team league H2H, Dynasty, Daily Transactions, 40 players
Skaters: G 2.5, A 1, Pt 1, FOW 1, FOL -1, Gv -1, PIM -1, SOG 1, Tk 1, Hits 1, Blocks 1, STPGWG 7
Goalies: W 8, L -7, GA -2.5, SV 1, SO 11
Team: Dif 1
Starters: C(4), LW(4), RW(4), D(6), G(2), Tm(1)
C: Backes, Bergeron, Toews, Monahan, Nelson, Vermette, Lee
LW: Benn, MacArthur, Tatar, Drouin, Gerbe, Abdelkater
RW: Brouwer, Callahan, Clutterbuck, Cole, Frolik
D: Kronwall, Phaneuf, Subban, Vatanen, Weber, Yandle, Boychuk, Krug, Brodie, Ekblad
G: Lundqvist, Quick, Allen
Team: PIT
Minors (8): Dal Colle, Domi, Reinhart, Teravainen, Ehlers, Gibson, Salomaki, Nurse
IR: Comeau, Franzen, Wingels
Re: Possible Trade For Kane
What Kane? Evander or Patty?
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, SBennett
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
"Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."
Re: Possible Trade For Kane
Does it matter? It's a no to either scenario from me. Keep Malkin.Originally Posted by Axeman33
Re: Possible Trade For Kane
No one should be untouchable, including Malkin. There's always a price for anyone. Without all the details, or in this case, the right ones, you can't give accurate advice, even if it includes someone like Malkin.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, SBennett
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
"Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."
Re: Possible Trade For Kane
I agree Malkin is not untouchable, but if you actually read my post, you would see that I don't think it matters. Either way, whether it is Evander or Patrick, the price is not high enough and I (note that I said 'from me') would not trade Malkin for that package, whether it included Evander or Patrick.
Re: Possible Trade For Kane
Sorry - I was thinking Patrick Kane and Marleau for Malkin. We can only start 3 players at each LW/C/RW - and the 1st at each is the only one to get full points - 2nd at each gets .8 and third at each gets .6. So having 4 or 5 good centers doesn't help me if I don't have a high quality starter at LW - turning Malkin into a good RW and LW seemed to make sense. We also only keep 9 players form year to year...
Fantrax 8 team league H2H, Dynasty, Daily Transactions, 40 players
Skaters: G 2.5, A 1, Pt 1, FOW 1, FOL -1, Gv -1, PIM -1, SOG 1, Tk 1, Hits 1, Blocks 1, STPGWG 7
Goalies: W 8, L -7, GA -2.5, SV 1, SO 11
Team: Dif 1
Starters: C(4), LW(4), RW(4), D(6), G(2), Tm(1)
C: Backes, Bergeron, Toews, Monahan, Nelson, Vermette, Lee
LW: Benn, MacArthur, Tatar, Drouin, Gerbe, Abdelkater
RW: Brouwer, Callahan, Clutterbuck, Cole, Frolik
D: Kronwall, Phaneuf, Subban, Vatanen, Weber, Yandle, Boychuk, Krug, Brodie, Ekblad
G: Lundqvist, Quick, Allen
Team: PIT
Minors (8): Dal Colle, Domi, Reinhart, Teravainen, Ehlers, Gibson, Salomaki, Nurse
IR: Comeau, Franzen, Wingels
Re: Possible Trade For Kane
I understand where you're coming from, that's a bit of a weird setup, but in a limited keeper, I generally don't ever want to move one of the best players in the game unless I'm getting a significant upgrade on my overall keepers. Let's see your full roster though so we know who you're keeping.
On the surface, I still don't like the deal. I would rather see something like Kane/Hall if I'm moving Malkin, especially in a limited keeper. With Marleaus age, I want an asset that is going to produce for years to come.
Re: Possible Trade For Kane
More info...
LW: Elias/Soderberg,Ca/Wilson,Co/Comeau,Bl/Domi,Ma/Fleischma,To
C: Bergeron/Malkin/MacKinnon/Ribeiro/Nelson/Bennett,Sa/Strome
RW: Kessel/Nyquist/Byfuglien/Brown/Nieto,Ma
D: Weber/Yandle/Doughty/Trouba/Phaneuf/Vatanen
G: Schneider/Elliott/Allen
Start 3 lines on offense, 2 defensive lines and a goalie
For All Skaters:
A goal = 1 point
A short-handed goal = 1.50 points
Power play goal = 0.70 points
An assist = 0.50 points
Each +/- = 0.10 points
Each penalty minute = —0.05 points
For Goalies Only:
A minute played = 0.01 points
A shot against = 0.06 points
A goal allowed = —0.60 points
The players playing on your first lines (both offensive and defensive) get their full point total.
For your second line offensive and defensive players, their points are only worth 0.8 of full value,
and for third line offensive players, their points are multiplied by 0.6.
We play 3 games head to head each week...
Expected Keepers (8): Bergeron/Malkin/MacKinnon/Kessel/Nyquist/Weber/Yandle/Schneider
Possible: Nelson/Bennett,Sa/Strome/Domi,Ma/Doughty/Trouba/Vatanen/Elliott/Allen
Fantrax 8 team league H2H, Dynasty, Daily Transactions, 40 players
Skaters: G 2.5, A 1, Pt 1, FOW 1, FOL -1, Gv -1, PIM -1, SOG 1, Tk 1, Hits 1, Blocks 1, STPGWG 7
Goalies: W 8, L -7, GA -2.5, SV 1, SO 11
Team: Dif 1
Starters: C(4), LW(4), RW(4), D(6), G(2), Tm(1)
C: Backes, Bergeron, Toews, Monahan, Nelson, Vermette, Lee
LW: Benn, MacArthur, Tatar, Drouin, Gerbe, Abdelkater
RW: Brouwer, Callahan, Clutterbuck, Cole, Frolik
D: Kronwall, Phaneuf, Subban, Vatanen, Weber, Yandle, Boychuk, Krug, Brodie, Ekblad
G: Lundqvist, Quick, Allen
Team: PIT
Minors (8): Dal Colle, Domi, Reinhart, Teravainen, Ehlers, Gibson, Salomaki, Nurse
IR: Comeau, Franzen, Wingels
Re: Possible Trade For Kane
How many teams? Probably not too many with the size of your roster. Keeper wise, I wouldn't make the deal. You have a decent set of keepers that you're not going to be able to upgrade significantly by adding Marleau and Kane. In a good year Kane can put up about 80 points, maybe 90. In a good year, Malkin can put up 110, maybe 120. So it's a - 30 point swing. Adding Marleau, you would drop Nyquist or Bergeron, and maybe gain 10 points. Overall it just doesn't make any sense. Even if you look at it from a position perspective it won't work out in your favour. Maybe if you don't believe Malkin can produce greater than a point per game you make the deal, but to me he's just too valuable in a limited keeper.
The ONLY reason I would consider trading Malkin in this scenario is if the trade pretty much GAURANTEES you a first place finish this year.
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