Re: Trading for Duchene
Originally Posted by
mister_mcgoo
How is it a moot point? How many times does it need to happen before you people wake up and pay attention? Enough already.
The magic number tends to be 3 years +/- 1, that's how long it takes the average Russian to bolt back to the KHL if they don't have make it in the NHL right away (i.e. they're getting 3rd/4th line duties, limited ice time and PP time, healthy scratches, demoted to minors, etc). With a NA player, they don't have the option to go make millions in another league, if they want to play professional hockey for a career they need to tough it out in the NHL trenches and fight to earn their spot. Now I'm not saying this happens to Yakupov, I think there's a pretty good chance he bounces back from last year, but if he doesn't or if he suffers any additional major setbacks, he's as good as gone.
So when I make trades, I prefer to keep players that will be playing in the NHL if possible, I find that helps my teams significantly. Sure Yakupov has more upside but how much? 5-10 pts more maybe? To me that's not worth the added risk, maybe to others it is. But these are the kind of questions you need to be asking in situations like this.
My point wasn't that there isn't a risk (though I do think it's overblown), my point was that if Yakupov does hit stride he's going to stay in the NHL. You said yourself that those who leave are the ones who can't tough it out and end up earning 3rd/4th line duties. My point was that if Yak ends up a 4th liner, you're probably not keeping him anyway so who cares what league he's playing in. The whole reason you'd choose Yak over Toffoli is their projected upside, knowing that if Yak hits his (or close) then you're getting the better player and a player who will be playing in the NHL. Therefore, unless you're set on holding a 4th liner into one of your keeper spots for 2-3+ seasons, the KHL factor is a moot point. See what I'm getting at?
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