I prefer looking at the larger sample than just one partial season. Points-wise I think he will disappoint compared to expectations. Always been a good roto league guy though.
This one blew me away – Mark Giordano has an 82 game pace of 61 points, 92 penalty minutes, and 229 shots. A low end number one option next year? As crazy as it sounds to say that.
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I prefer looking at the larger sample than just one partial season. Points-wise I think he will disappoint compared to expectations. Always been a good roto league guy though.
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Definitely agree that the points will drop a bit, but even if he is 50Pts, 80Pims and 200+ shots. That is still close to a top 10 d-man in most formats. His health, well that could be a separate issue from regression
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I've been saying he's been a good producer and probably one of the more under-rated skaters in the league for quite some time now, and I am an Oilers fan.
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Giordano is a great defenseman. His advanced stats are also very good for a Flames player. Nice to see his fantasy value rise a little bit. I always thought he was underrated.
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He's a good hockey player, but those are pretty ambitious projections for a full 82-game schedule. I would definitely take the under on 50.
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He makes you look good with two points and plus-2 tonight, bumping that 'pace' higher.
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He's been criminally underrated for years now as a fantasy producer in multi-cat leagues. I've usually been able to snag him as my second or even third d-man and I usually draft d-men late.
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For me he's kind of like the new Vrbata. Maybe not elite per se, but a solid producer that will probably be there in the late rounds. I'll be targeting him as a #2 option next year (10 team league)
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Not many guys outside of Subban, Buff and maybe Letang can give the same mix of Pts, SOG and PIMs that Giordano is giving right now. Just needs to stay healthy
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Sheesh, didn't realize he was that high.
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That's the the unreal thing, in some leagues (if they're shallow enough) he's still on the waiver wire. I think it's partly because his name is "Giordano", he plays out west, and there isn't a ton of media/mainstream recognition of him. Will likely change in a years time.
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Idk, Darren, people definitely know about him. We know he's a good hockey player, and his peripheral value is solid, but I just don't think he's going to score enough points over a full 82-game schedule for him to be considered a #1 or #2 fantasy D. He's playing like that right now, and he's definitely got long-term value. I just have a hard time pegging him as more than a 40-ish point D with good peripherals.
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I'm surprised that no one mentioned injuries yet. I agree that Giordano is a solid hockey player and due to peripherals a good fantasy defenseman. Injuries will curb his production and his value. It's his style, moving the puck in the offensive zone and getting his body between the puck and net in the the defensive zone. He'll get his bumps and bruises and he will miss time. In a full season without injury he could push 50 points. Heck he's doing it this year even with an injury. However I think this year is more of an outlier than the norm. That's why I agree with mounD's assessment of 40 points with good periphs.
re: Gio.
With the value of defensemen in fantasy hockey - the majority of their value (IMO) is tied to their use on the PP.
If a team doesn't have stellar forwards, a D-man can be designated as the SHOOT-FIRST option on the powerplay.
(This isn't luck. This role comes straight out of practice from the coach's instructions.)
This is massive, massive value to a D-man because of the high PPP and SOG that goes with this role.
Unless a D-man is really gifted offensively with hands (Karlsson, Subban, ol' Mike Green back-in-the-day), then huge value only comes with this role.
Fortunately, Giordano (on a O-challenged CGY team) has indeed emerged into this Weber-like role... and THAT does make him a fantasy hockey multi-cat monster for the foreseeable future.
I tab him "the real deal" in multi-cat & 50point-per-82 D.
Definite Tier II or Tier Ia D-man.