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Thread: Staal+ for burns+ - thoughts quick, trade awaiting response! REP

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    Default Staal+ for burns+ - thoughts quick, trade awaiting response! REP

    I tried Burns/richards for Yakupov/Staal
    he counter offered
    E. Staal
    Iginla

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    M. Richards
    B.Burns

    All info in Sig, Im looking to be competitive next year and wondering what I can expcect form Staal moving forward?Also worried about Burns positional eligibility in Yahoo.
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    I love it. It's doubtful Burns will have D eligibility and E Stal is by FAR the best player in the deal. I'd do this before he changes his mind.

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    Iginla is a huge downgrade, imo, from Yakupov.

    I might consider countering, asking for someone better for next year than Iginla, without going as high as Yakupov.

    I'd hate to accept a counter offer if there might still be some room for more negotiating.

    Good luck.

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    That is a perfect example of a win-win deal. You definitely win this for next year, as I would be comfortable better money that Burns will lose D-eligibility. Meanwhile, for the guy making the trade, this works out quite well for him this year, but he definitely loses going forward. But if he is competing this year, then it's all good.

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    Appreciate it, trying to figure something out now where I'm not stuck w/ Iginla - even a pick would be better for sure. Din't wanna lose deal though so I'm treading between trying to get max value and losing it!
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    Keep 11 roster players

    C - Stamkos,Mackinnon, Stepan
    LW - Hall,JVR,Drouin,
    RW - Wheeler,Voracek, Perron
    D - Subban,Carlson, Markov, Franson, Niskanen,
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    sedin
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    Marleau
    Vanek
    Yakupov
    Landeskog

    are his other players.

    Is Landeskog worth it instead of Iggy? (Considering my keepers)
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    Keep 11 roster players

    C - Stamkos,Mackinnon, Stepan
    LW - Hall,JVR,Drouin,
    RW - Wheeler,Voracek, Perron
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    anybody think moving Burns is bad?
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    Keep 11 roster players

    C - Stamkos,Mackinnon, Stepan
    LW - Hall,JVR,Drouin,
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    I don't think moving Burns is "bad" when you're getting the best player in the deal(Eric Staal). I'd ask for Vanek(or Sedin) before Iginla, though, if for no other reason just to see if the other guy would do it. Never know unless you ask.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Hockey Hitman View Post
    I don't think moving Burns is "bad" when you're getting the best player in the deal(Eric Staal). I'd ask for Vanek(or Sedin) before Iginla, though, if for no other reason just to see if the other guy would do it. Never know unless you ask.
    I have countered w/ Elias, Richards,burns for landy/staal or Vanek Staal - he hasn't touched it in 2 days. I'm worried he may cancel all trades (inc his proposal) next time he looks as he doesn't seem to check or respond frequently. Staal is def a top 15 player moving forward for me though. Can't decide if I should take this wait out his response to this regardless and if he declines maybe sell burns higher later in season to somebody competing who needs D games ?
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    Keep 11 roster players

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    LW - Hall,JVR,Drouin,
    RW - Wheeler,Voracek, Perron
    D - Subban,Carlson, Markov, Franson, Niskanen,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thejem View Post
    anybody think moving Burns is bad?
    My bigger issue is that your SIG shows 2C... and you are apparently invested in Mackinnon & Barkov. E.Staal is your 3rd C.

    Burns has such good value for this year at D, that I think you need to get a return at LW or RW.

    In general, it would give you better team balance.

    Center is the deepest position in most leagues and with only 2C... the last thing you need is a 3rd C.

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    E. Staal>>Iginla

    75+ to Staal vs 60-65 to Iginla (Bruins win games by shutting the door more han they do by all out fire power)

    for my

    M. Richards </= B.Burns (marginally)

    Richards is gonna hit maybe 55 pts 60 if he's lucky and Burns i think can go just a touch further but still kind of an unknow imo as this will be a full year as a forward but they are playing outstanding hock so far this season.....but then they did last year too in the beginning and then is started to implode on them a bit!
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    10 Team league keep 15
    Top 15 fwd, 5 D and 2 G count G/A=1 , PPP= 0.5 W=2 SO=3

    F: Crosby Benn Kucherov JT.Miller Marchessault Kadri Draisaitl Wheeler E.Staal T.Johnson V.Filppula M.Granlund Vesey Coyle Jagr Schwartz Parise Larkin
    D: Shattenkirk S.Weber Werenski Petry Klefbom Krug Savard Stone
    G: Rask Dubnyk Hutchinson Elliot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    My bigger issue is that your SIG shows 2C... and you are apparently invested in Mackinnon & Barkov. E.Staal is your 3rd C.

    Burns has such good value for this year at D, that I think you need to get a return at LW or RW.

    In general, it would give you better team balance.

    Center is the deepest position in most leagues and with only 2C... the last thing you need is a 3rd C.
    This is exactly what I was referring to. I wanted to see if it was me over worrying or a genuine concern.
    Center seems like not the toughest position to fill and I have 2 that I dont wanna move for sure coming down the pipeline (consider Schwartz and maybe Bark not really interested in moving Nate).
    It gives me more balance and the opportunity to maybe work out a deal w/ the guy who hates the leafs and autodrafted Kessel 8th ovr.
    How would you feel about Kessel for Staal straight up?
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    12 team Yahoo! Rot
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    Goalies - Sv%, GAA, s/o, wins
    82 games max C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G
    Keep 11 roster players

    C - Stamkos,Mackinnon, Stepan
    LW - Hall,JVR,Drouin,
    RW - Wheeler,Voracek, Perron
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    Lost the deal! Waited to long and he took it back. Not sure if I'm unhappy or not.
    12 team Yahoo! Rot
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    Goalies - Sv%, GAA, s/o, wins
    82 games max C, C, LW, LW, RW, RW, D, D, D, D, G, G
    Keep 11 roster players

    C - Stamkos,Mackinnon, Stepan
    LW - Hall,JVR,Drouin,
    RW - Wheeler,Voracek, Perron
    D - Subban,Carlson, Markov, Franson, Niskanen,
    G - Andersen,Elliot,Lehtonen

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