Nice find with Weiss! I have Versteeg, because the news of his progress sounds reasonably promising, but I missed Weiss. I grabbed Grabo at 1.94, but Weiss would have been better.
Interesting finding in my research
Weiss has a starting salary of $540,000 - now that is cheap points.
Versteeg is pretty cheap as well at $730,000, but it isn't certain he will start the season.
Obviously being injured last season means they carried no value.
Last edited by Shoeless; September 9, 2013 at 6:28 AM.
Nice find with Weiss! I have Versteeg, because the news of his progress sounds reasonably promising, but I missed Weiss. I grabbed Grabo at 1.94, but Weiss would have been better.
Just for information purposes, I took the Dobbernomics cats and league set up and punched them into FHG for a 12 team league and used Dobber's guide projections to rank the players. This translated to projected fantasy points (fp) for each and then I plugged in the Dobbernomic's starting salary for each and calculated a $/fp for each player to get a sense of comparative values. Provides some interesting comparisons
I also paid attention to games played projections and calculated a projection for fp per game for each player. Not a lot of surprises here but a few players when healthy definitely will chip in at a higher rate than players of similar total fp projections for the season, who are projected to play more games.
For instance, Malkin is projected to get the most fantasy points per game (slightly more than Ovechkin) even though Dobber is projecting him to miss a fair chunk, so his total fantasy points are down the list some. Looks to be a good deal for the start of the season with his salary somewhat depressed compared to other studs. So his value in terms of $/fp is pretty damn good.
Last edited by Shoeless; September 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM.
Johansson at $2.77 million is pretty good, especially if he plays top line with Ovi and Backstrom all season. That's a pretty cheap for a top-line player on a team with a lot of offence.
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12-team Keeper pool, straight points for forwards & dmen. Goalies get: 2 points per win, 3 per shutout, 1 point per assist & 1 point per shootout loss.
League champ in 2013, 2015, 2018, 2020 and 2022.
Top 8 forwards, 5 dmen and 2 goalies count.
We keep 15 players (any position) plus two rookies.
Forwards: Panarin, Ovechkin, Kopitar, Stamkos, Tuch, Rust, Marchessault, Pavelski, Miller, Bertuzzi, Stone, Kakko, Brown, Stankoven, Kovalenko
Defence: Hedman, Fox, Matheson, Thrun, Jiricek
Goalies: Kochetkov, Talbot, Vasilevskiy, Campbell, Schmid
Spezza is the biggest bargain in the game.
Writer of the weekly Top 10 column.
12-team Keeper pool, straight points for forwards & dmen. Goalies get: 2 points per win, 3 per shutout, 1 point per assist & 1 point per shootout loss.
League champ in 2013, 2015, 2018, 2020 and 2022.
Top 8 forwards, 5 dmen and 2 goalies count.
We keep 15 players (any position) plus two rookies.
Forwards: Panarin, Ovechkin, Kopitar, Stamkos, Tuch, Rust, Marchessault, Pavelski, Miller, Bertuzzi, Stone, Kakko, Brown, Stankoven, Kovalenko
Defence: Hedman, Fox, Matheson, Thrun, Jiricek
Goalies: Kochetkov, Talbot, Vasilevskiy, Campbell, Schmid
When he gets injured you sell him.
I don't think so - sure he is a good deal, but there are close to 10 much better deals than him and quite a few deals that are slightly better.
Now, having said that - if Spezza remains healthy this season and comes in with a chip on his shoulder at not getting invited to the Olympic orientation camp - then yeah - look out because he will put up some awesome numbers. I wouldn't bet against him at this point.
Last edited by Shoeless; September 10, 2013 at 7:02 AM.
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Weekly lineup changes (start 9F (3/4C and 6/5W) 5D 2G)
G, A, PPP, SOG, BS, +/-, GAA, W, SV%
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C: Tavares Hintz Larkin Jenner Seguin Schenn Backlund
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G: Vasilevskiy Swayman Kuemper
Writer of the weekly Top 10 column.
12-team Keeper pool, straight points for forwards & dmen. Goalies get: 2 points per win, 3 per shutout, 1 point per assist & 1 point per shootout loss.
League champ in 2013, 2015, 2018, 2020 and 2022.
Top 8 forwards, 5 dmen and 2 goalies count.
We keep 15 players (any position) plus two rookies.
Forwards: Panarin, Ovechkin, Kopitar, Stamkos, Tuch, Rust, Marchessault, Pavelski, Miller, Bertuzzi, Stone, Kakko, Brown, Stankoven, Kovalenko
Defence: Hedman, Fox, Matheson, Thrun, Jiricek
Goalies: Kochetkov, Talbot, Vasilevskiy, Campbell, Schmid
But if you own injury prone guys, you make sure to keep a trade in hand every week. So Spezza gets hurt Saturday. A large % of the league has blown all their trades on Thursday morning. As soon as you get the injury news you make your trade, while other teams sit there and stew.
Also, I believe a player's value can change by a max of $250,000 per day, so if you pick up a player for $3 million, and he is worth $6 million when he gets hurt, you still have a net gain if it takes you a few days to drop him.
In future seasons I would love to see a Watch List feature added to Dobbernomics. Good way to keep an eye on players of interest.