Reply With QuoteIn my opinion yes, especially that your defense is pretty slim (for the moment until Weber gets started). The only offer I'd accept is against a good RW.
Alex Pietrangelo
I'm a Pietrangelo owner.. and over the past couple weeks I've been flooded with offers for him. I, however, don't feel that any of them are close. I'm wondering what his value would be in my league.. what type of return to expect. It's the first league in my sig. I'm not actively shopping him.. but some of the offers I've received are,
-Horton + B. Schenn for Pietro + Erat (Erat and Horton cancel out in my mind.. thus AP for Schenn)
-Vanek for Pietro
-J. Carter for Pietro
Am I right to value him much higher?!
14T dynasty
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG
W, SV%, SO, GAA, SVS
In my opinion yes, especially that your defense is pretty slim (for the moment until Weber gets started). The only offer I'd accept is against a good RW.
6 teams, keeper, 12 Forwards, 6 Dmen, 2 Goalies and 5 Benched.
Points only (2 for goals by Dmen)
Limit of 3 seasons per player and salary cap of 93M.
Names in red are on their third seasons
F: Neal, Kadri, Hodgson, Backstrom, Conacher, Ribeiro, Hall, Zetterberg, Patrick Kane, Tavares, Kessel, Duchene
D: Boyle, Kronwall, Pietrangelo, Subban, Weber, OEL
G: Smith, Howard
B: Tarasenko, Muzzin,Enstrom, Bobrovsky
I wouldn't even consider any of these offers as a starting point for AP.
If they want him, the price should be higher.
And looking at your D, I wouldn't trade him.
Weekly H2H points only (Year 9 - 2015-16)
12 teams limited keeper (keep 6 + 1 Rookie)
13 round draft - Unlimited Trades - No Waivers - No IR
4 Team Playoffs (last 2 reg. season weeks)
Rookies are 23 years old or younger in the draft year and never reached 60pts (forward), 40pts (defense), 25 wins (goalie)
Start : C RW LW Utility D D G
Points : A - G = 1 pt W = 2 pts SO = 1pt
C - S.Stamkos, J.Thornton, K.Turris, D.Stepan
LW - O.Palat, B.Saad, A.Burakovsky
RW - B.Wheeler, T.Toffoli, C.Atkinson
D - E.Karlsson, S.Gostisbehere, C.Fowler, A.Ekblad, A.Larsson
G - C.Hellebuyck, D.Dubnyk, A.Niemi, K.Lehtonen
Yes. AP will be one of the more consistent producers from the backend. His value is much higher than what's been offered. Vanek isn't terrible, but he had a wickedly hot start last year as well and hasn't proved to be much more than a 60-70 point player. Pietrangely could be a 65 point dman.
10tm Dynasty Lg - $96M CAP
G A PTS +/- PIM PPP SOG W GAA SV% SO
C: Barkov, Eichel, McDavid
RW: P. Kane, Okposo
LW: E. Kane, Couture
D: Subban, Byfuglien, Faulk, Vatanen, Morgan Reilly
G: Schneider, Gibson/Andersen
UTIL: Kuznetsov, Kadri, Little, Stone
Farm
D: J. Schultz, Sekera, Hanifin, Hamonic
F: Spooner, Silfverberg, Konecny, Roussell
G: F. Andersen/Gibson, Mason, Ward, Anderson
Prospect:
F - D Strome, Burakovsky, Raantanen, Bjorkstrand
D - Ryan Murphy
Those offers are all insulting.
Next time, just tell them to stop wasting your time unless they're ready to table something serious.
As an AP owner I wouldn't take any of those deals. From what I've seen of him so far he's going to be in that upper echelon of dmen, so I wouldn't give him up without a huge deal coming back for me.
League 1: 16 Teams. 8 Keepers. Weekly H2H
F (Start 6): Barkov, J.Hughes, Zibanejad, E. Kane, Buchnevich, Kopitar, Coyle, Trocheck
D (Start 4): Josi, Hamilton, Toews, Hanifin, Pionk, Clarke, Korchinski
G (Start 1): Vasilevskiy, Daccord
Point System
G=2, A=1, D-man G/A=+1, PIM=0.5, +/-=0.5, Shot=0.1, PPG=1, PPA=1
Goalie Points
W=4, S= 0.14, GA=-1, OvertimeW=1, ShootOutW =1, ShutOut=2
League 2: 12 Team Dynasty League - 30 man roster plus 7 farm.
Keep 20 + 7 farm. Weekly H2H Roto. G, A, Shots, Hits, Blocks, PPP, Goalie W, SV%, GAA. Forward Positional Requirements.
You are absolutely right to value Pietrangelo higher. The offers will need to get a lot better before you even begin to consider trading him.
you will know what type of return is right when you see it
other than the vanek deal none of them are even close to the ballpark
send out some comparable offers for those other gms star players just to let them know how insulting their offers are
they will either get serious about what they are offering or they will leave you alone
but either way they will know you are not some shmuck they can try to take advantage of
Those offers are not even close. AP is and will be one of the top 5 fantasy dmen for years to come. This season he has 7pts in 6g. Nuff said.
I use two rules when/if dealing high end fantasy players:
1. does the deal make my team better for the direction my team is going? (direction: going for the win or rebuilding)
2. if I'm dealing an elite player, I need to win the deal quite obviously. I won't deal a stud in a fair deal. If someone wants a name like AP, I'm making that GM pay through the nose.
(The exception to these rules is I would deal elite for elite IF it makes my team better for my direction.)
20tm UFA/RFA dynasty
Cats: G, A, SOG, STpts, +/-, hits/bs, GAA, Sv%, W+SO
Prennial Norris candidate
13 team Keeper, top 8F, 4D and 2G count. 1pt G/A, 2pt W/SO.
Protect up to 500 points in a full season
(K) denotes keeper
Keepers:
F: Draisaitl, Thompson, Thomas, Zuccarello, Konecny, Marchessault Ehlers, O'Reilly, Tarasenko, Perron, Coronato, Seguin, Atkinson, Rossi, Michkov
D: Q Fox, Sergachev, Dobson, York, Hutson
G: Vasilevsky, Jarry, Levi
I turned down Evander Kane for Pietrangelo.
REDRUM
-roto - 10 team - keep 20 of 24 - G, A, PTS, +/-, PIM, PPG, PPA, W, SV, SV%
C - Nathan MacKinnon, Aleksander Barkov, Nick Bjugstad, Jonathon Huberdeau
LW - Evander Kane, Jaden Schwartz, Brayden Schenn, Chris Kreider, Jonathon Drouin, Sven Baertchi
RW - Kyle Okposo, Valeri Nichushkin, Gustav Nyquist, Chris Stewart
D - Oliver Ekman Larsson, Dougie Hamilton, Viktor Hedman, Kevin Shattenkirk, Erik Johnson
G - Jonathon Bernier, Sergei Bobrovsky, Darcy Kuemper, Robin Lehner
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