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    Shattenkirk was an exception (to date). Meszaros appeared to be an exception, a few years ago.


    Actually a list of exceptions (productive)
    What is productive?
    - Shattenkirk, Karlsson, Doughty, Edler, Pietrangelo, Letang, Goligoski, OEL, Yandle...

    roller coaster exceptions - highs & lows
    MDZ, Myers, EJ, Subban...

    Normal - some have had interesting stretches indicating next level is forthcoming
    Barrie, Elliott, Voynov, Hedman, Rundblad, Bogo, McBain, Carlson, Orlov, Schenn, de Haan, Despres, Russell, Brendan Smith, Kulikov, Murphy, Ellis, Fowler, JJ, Leddy, Josi, Larsson, Erixon, Nikitin...

    This list is incomplete.

    If I've been fortunate, at best, after identifying an elite prospect, your odds of success are likely 25% to 35%. To combat this, I've tended to draft these guys when they've made the first steps of success. I don't remember the last D-man I drafted as an 18 year old. The leagues I play in don't have 'prospects' and limit rosters at 30-35. By drafting after they have proven they are going to be in the NHL, my success has been much better. Yandle, Goli, McBain, Voynov, Edler, Shattenkirk (immediately traded), Elliott (immediately traded)... I'd rather spend and buy something when it is proven, than draft endlessly hoping that the guy will break through.

    Most of the good ones are first rounders. All of the good ones entered into a situation in which the organization wanted to lean on them. I think only the Phoenix boys displaced, or somewhat displaced, a veteran that might have continued for some more time (OEL, Yandle)... none started on a 100 point team (maybe because 100 point teams don't have the highest draft picks)... you could consider the break throughs to have been on teams that were rebuilding (MDZ would be an exception - maybe others)....

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    add Fowler to the first list, and likely Shultz
    IDHL League 28 team H2H league multicat full keeper
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    Cooley, Guenther, Hoglander, Lundell, Quinn, Voronkov, Stankoven, Carlsson

    Hutson, Zellweger, Clarke, KA Miller, Xhekai, Malinski, Thrun

    Dostal, Hofer

    Beck, Bolduc, Dumais, Gaucher, Gunler, Pervalov
    Ufko, Benning, Del Mastro, Peart, Grudinin
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    Depending on your league setup, some players move up and some move down.

    Hamonic is an example of a useful guy in some formats. Fowler is at his best in points only and not a lot of fun if you have plus/minus.

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    Looking at fantrax update to Elliot. It says he was recalled back up?
    H2H, 12 Gm'z, 12 keeper,5 Farm,8 reserve's A,G,DG,Hat.T,GWG,PPA,PPG,SHG,SHOG,SO,W, D'z 2 points for goal one for assits. Plus PPA PPG for defence. Dress 9 F 5D 1 G.

    J.Tavares,C.Giroux,A.Kopitar,E.Staal,R.Getzlaf,P.K essel,J Neal,B.Burns

    S.Weber,E.Karlsson,J.Gardnier,M.Streit
    Marc-Andre Fleury

    Farm: T.Toffoli,N.Bjugstad,D.Hamilton,C.Ceci,D.Pouliot

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepiper View Post
    Looking at fantrax update to Elliot. It says he was recalled back up?
    No he wasn't. It's just Fantrax messing up a bit on something related to their news system with players status. You'll find a lot of other "news" related to the same problem like Kesler returning to action, Sean Avery signing with NYR etc.

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    I like Elliott, he looked great...last year...not so good this year.
    Barrie will never score more than 25pts...don't see him going out of his way to jump in rushes or find scoring lanes.
    12 Team H2H Keeper, 17 Starters (9-F, 6-D, 2-G) 11 bench spots

    Cat: +/-, PIMs, G, A, Pts, PPP, SHP, GWG, GAA,
    SV%, Wins, SHO

    C - Toews, Getzlaf, Hanzal, Stepan Barkov,Pirri
    LW-Tatar, Palat, Jokinen, Pacioretty, Etem
    RW-Tarasenko, Horton, Nichushkin, Niederreiter, Connolly, Forsberg
    D -Subban , Enstrom, Burns, Demers, Sekera, Visnovsky

    G - Miller, Khudobin, Berra, Nabokov

    Farm Team: Mrazek, Bennett, Tervavainen,Drasaitl

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    Sounds like a sophomore slump. There are probably better options out there for one-year leagues, but as a keeper he should still be pretty good...

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