OEL is first, hands down for all the reasons stated in this thread.
2nd, give me Rielly. I own Gardiner and am happy with him becuase I didn't actually expect too much out of him, but Rielly's upside is even to trump him.
1. OEL for sure.
2. Rielly 2nd for sure - he has the most offensive upside of all 3 but OEL is a stud and has arrived.
3. Gardiner. He is good but doesn't have the offensive upside of the other two.
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Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10
Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
Captain: Matthews
(F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
(D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun, Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
(G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka
OEL is first, hands down for all the reasons stated in this thread.
2nd, give me Rielly. I own Gardiner and am happy with him becuase I didn't actually expect too much out of him, but Rielly's upside is even to trump him.
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Cats: G, A, SOG, STpts, +/-, hits/bs, GAA, Sv%, W+SO
Oel is the better player....that being said he is behind Yandle. Until that changes, I see him getting around 40-42 points....which probably will be around what Gardiner gets as well. If you are drafting, go with Oel.....but if you are trying to aquire through trade, go with Gardiner....he'll probably be cheaper than Oel.
My vote: OEL.....better upside and all around stud d-man.
14 team points only league
9 forwards (3 of each position)
4 defense
2 goalies
farm team option
Must submit top 4 pointing players back into draft at end of every season
14 rounds
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oel for me too.
10 team Full Keeper Roto League
4C-4LW-4RW-6D-2G-5bench-unlimited farm.
C= eichel,horvat,malkin,kuznetsov
LW= forsberg,kreider,lee,b.tkchuch,hertle,granlund
RW= reinhart,radulov,hoffman,laine,hayes
D= doughty,ghostebehere,karlsson,jones,klefbom,dahlin ,skjei
G= price,murray,grubauer,georgiev,ullmark,samsonov
under250gp=nichushkin,tuch,mathesson,marino,pujuja rvi,hosang,terry,andersson,j.hughes,patrik,crouse, zadina,podkolzin,k.miller,nedeljkovic,kravtsov,hay ton
--G,A,P,PPP,SHP,GWG,PIMS,+/-,SOG,hits,FOW,blks-Wins,GAA,SV%,saves,SO
I still fail to understand how Yandle's presence hurts OEL. It may take away a few points based on pairing changes over a season but a beast is a beast. The dual-left-handed shot theory on the PP can be shot down by the fact that OEL played his first full season in the NHL last year. I am pretty confident that those chemistry issues can be resolved by OEL simply getting more experience.
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I believe Yandle's presence helps OEL, for now anyway.. Over the long-term, OEL will need to be the guy.. I am just trying to see, who out of this three will be most valuable in a "points only" league. I am starting to get the feeling that OEL is the guy!!
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I would love to be the dissenter but it's clearly OEL.
I see Yandle in Philly at some point. Just an inkling.
I have Gardiner slightly ahead of MR.
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D: Fox....Bouchard....Letang....Heiskanen....Perunovi ch....Zellweger....Toews....Ekholm
F: Eichel....Caufield....J Robertson....W Nylander....Kucherov
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OEL easily for me. His development curve has been on track just as most predicted and this year should see another bump in his production. He's so smart and calm with the puck and not afraid to shoot often too. The only bad thing would be if they move him into a defensive role like Washington did with Carlson.
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12 Team - H2H Keeper League - 25 Players - 13 Keepers
(G, A, P, +/-, Hits, PPP, SOG, W, GAA, SV%)
Keepers
C: Tavares, Benn,
LW: Galchenyuk, Landeskog, .
RW: Pominville, Little, Oshie, Yakupov
D: Subban, Vatanen, Fowler
G: Price, Bishop
Seeing all the recent posts, I was just thinking a similar thought about Rielly, although not quite so extreme. Good old Toronto hype machine. I like Rielly, but his upside isn't as high as the Ryan Murphy's of the world, and he's farther away then a lot of other D, even guys in his own draft class.
OEL by a decent margin for me. Then Gardiner, and THEN Rielly.
12 Team Keeper League, 4 C, 4 LW, 4 RW, 6 D, 1G, 6 BN, 3 IR
Keep 20 players
G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, SHP, GWG, SOG
W, L, GA, SV, SO
C: Toews, Skinner, Eller, Hertl, Granlund, Jenner, Lindholm
LW: Boedker, Galchenyuk, Silfverberg, M. Richards
RW: Yakupov, Nichushkin, Gaborik, Setoguchi, Niederreiter
D: Karlsson, Subban, Goligoski, D. Kulikov, Carlson, Brodin, Trouba
G: Price, Varlamov
1. OEL
2. Rielly
3. Gardiner
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