Reply With QuoteI have not read this entire thread so I apologize if this is repetition or if I am mistaken, but doesn't Karlsson lead the league in takeaways? Just wondering, I thought I heard that or read it somewhere.
lol yes...Originally Posted by Big Ev
The Norris is a defensive award, Lidstrom was a shutdown defenseman that scored a billion points during his award winning career. I don't see Karlsson as that kind of talent on the defensive end (right now). As he grows and scored 70+ and is a defensive monster, by all means give him the award.
I figure he will get the award this season, but I don't agree with how Mike Green was overlooked.
Any as someone pointed out above, each teams GA is about the 233 for Wash in 09 and 229 for the Sens with two games left. The difference there is that Wash scored 318 goals that season whereas the Sens are at 240 at the moment. Damn Washington was good that year.
In 08-09 73 points +24 and the team scored 272 with 245 against. not too bad, but still shows that even though he scores at a good rate, he does play a decent defensive game.
10 Keepers
10 Team, 10 Keeper
Head to Head: G,A,P,PPP,SHP,BS,FW,GAA,SV%,SO
Daily changes: 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G
C: Malkin, Pavelski, Domi
LW: Gaudreau, Drouin
RW: Kessel, B. Ryan, Nyquist
D: Hedman
G: Holtby
Don't mistake opinion for fact.
I have not read this entire thread so I apologize if this is repetition or if I am mistaken, but doesn't Karlsson lead the league in takeaways? Just wondering, I thought I heard that or read it somewhere.
" You said you don't give a f*ck about hockey. I've never heard anyone say that before."
Just checked and he leads all Dmen (12th overall) in takeaways with 64 but he is also 4th among Dmen (7th overall) in giveaways with 84........
Wow speedy response! Thanks!
" You said you don't give a f*ck about hockey. I've never heard anyone say that before."
you piqued my interest so I had to check
Karlsson plays better defensively than Green. Wasn't saying he's amazing defensively yet, but looking at their +/- is not the way to evaluate it. Greening having a higher +/- in the year he didn't win doesn't mean anything right now. Karlsson has been the d-man with the most impact on games this year, by far.
by the way, Lidstrom was up for the Norris last year and was a -2 on a team that scored 261 goals.
I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you. When I looked up the stats, it shows a clearer picture of why Green had a great plus minus that year, because Was scored so much.
Green was a big part of the offense and defence.. I agree that Karlsson is better somewhat defensively, but with the precedent that was set with Green not winning those two years, I don't feel Karlsson should run away with this one.
10 Keepers
10 Team, 10 Keeper
Head to Head: G,A,P,PPP,SHP,BS,FW,GAA,SV%,SO
Daily changes: 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G
C: Malkin, Pavelski, Domi
LW: Gaudreau, Drouin
RW: Kessel, B. Ryan, Nyquist
D: Hedman
G: Holtby
Don't mistake opinion for fact.
Hart- Evgeni Malkin
Art Ross- Evgeni Malkin
Norris- Erik Karlsson
Rocket Richard- Steven Stamkos
Vezina- Jonathan Quick
Calder- Gabriel Landeskog
Lady Byng- Pavel Datsyuk
Masterton- Max Pacioretty (Joffrey Lupul will come close)
Ted Lindsay- Evgeni Malkin
Selke- Pavel Datsyuk
Jack Adams- Ken Hitchcock
GM of the year- David Poile
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken."
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
I got the big ones right
Wrong on Selke, Vezina, Lady Byng and GM of the year. I called LA winning it all back in September, still can't believe I got that one right.
Not bad at all though.
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken."
"Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."
I just revisited the thread, and thought I'd toot your horn (no innuendo intended), but you've taken credit already.I got the big ones right
I'll do it anyway, great picks! You should have gone to Vegas.
The voters really botched the awards this season, I like my list a lot better.
20 Team Dynasty (points per) - G (25, 50 for defense) A (25) PIM (3) PPP (15) SHP (25) OTG (15) GWG (25) HTr (50) SOW (75) HIT (1) BLK (2) W (50) SHO (100) OTL (10) GA (-15) SV (2) Use actual NHL salary
Start 12 F, 6 D, 1G weekly
F: Kucherov, Marchand, Barkov, Gaudreau, Laine, Aho, Dubois, Dadonov, Huberdeau, Trocheck, Bertuzzi, Beauvillier, Khaira, Grigorenko
D: Ekman-Larsson, Yandle, Edler, Pulock, Borowiecki, Weegar, Mike Reilly
G: Andersen, Hart
Farm: Boldy, Beckman, Wise, Mascherin, Kovalenko, Manukyan, Walker, Morozov, Shafigullin, Palmu, Tychonic, Zhuravlyov, Kesselring, Zamula, Lankinen, Sogaard, Ingram, Rybar
Damn those votes for awarding the Stanley Cup to LA.
Setting up the play.
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