Reply With QuoteI'd rather have Keith Yandle
Better D-Men than Doughty, in a Keeper
Doughty just turned 21 in December.
He had 59 points last season. He then had 7 points in 6 playoff games.
He had a brutal start to this season, but has 19 points in his last 23 games, which would be a 67.7 point pace.
The Kings are one of the hottest up-and-coming teams in hockey.
Yet, after overpaying for Doughty in the offseason, I've watched him tumble to 9th in Dobber's defensemen rankings, behind Byfuglien, Green, Letang, Keith, Lidstrom, Enstrom, Boyle and Karlsson.
My question: Which defensemen, if any, would be better to own than Doughty, in a keeper league?
The only one who comes to mind is Mike Green, but I'm curious whether some folks (besides Dobber) would rank others above DD....
I'd rather have Keith Yandle
I'd take Doughty over anyone but Green in a keeper.
No one. If I could have one young D-Man to build my fantasy franchise around it would be Doughty.
8-GM / WK-H2H
Forwards: G=2, A=1, PP/SH= +1, GWG= +2, Shootout G=1, HT= +1
D-Men/Captain: G=3/A=2
Goalies: W=3, OTL=1, SO= +2, SV= .10
Start = 13F, 6D, 2G / Keep 44 (3G)
Captain: Matthews
(F): MacKinnon, Pasta, Marner, Rantanen, Malkin, Barkov, M.Tkachuk, W.Nylander, Pettersson, Gaudreau, Laine, Keller, Miller, B.Tkachuk, Stutzle, DeBrincat, L.Raymond, K.Johnson, Cozens, Quinn, Guenther, Kulich, Cooley
(D): Makar, Dahlin, Q.Hughes, Ekblad, Rielly, Werenski, Letang, Jones, Chychrun, Seider, Edvinsson, Jiricek, Korchinski, Mintyukov, Ceulemans, Hutson
(G): Shesterkin, Demko, Vejmelka
I would only take Byfuglien & Green over Doughty.
24 GM – 3 Tier Salary Cap Roto Dynasty League + Roto Playoffs (Keep 32 of 35)
G, A, +/-, PIM, SOG, STP, HITS, BS, W, GAA, SV | 4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 1G
C - Crosby, W.Nylander, Kempe, B.Howden, Wallmark, Z.Sanford, Newhook
LW - Ovechkin, Vrana, S.Bennett, Lehkonen, Aston-Reese, T.Benson, S.Poulin
RW - JT.Miller, Coleman, Gourde, Dzingel, Tippett, Volkov
D - Klingberg, Chabot, Slavin, Matheson, Chychrun, Sanheim, D.Toews, E.Bouchard, Cholowski
G - J.Gibson, DeSmith, Sparks, Luukkonen, Starrett
I have Green, Doughty and Yandle on my team. Right now I would rank them in that order. I have Green at the top based on what he has done and the scoring prowess Washington has shown. If they continue to play the way they have recently, or the style of play they have recently I'm going to have to bump Green down.
After Green though, Doughty and Yandle are just about neck and neck, with Doughty getting the slight bump because of the team he's on. Both are amazing to own though.
Just my opinion
12 team keeper, 8 keepers, Points only(1 point G/A, 2W+3SO)
$65M salary cap 12F 6D 2G active roster
Green
Letang
Doughty
Yandle
Enstrom
As expected the hype surrounding the hot starters like Big Buff have died down. I am very comfortable with my rankings above for keepers. I like Dought and Letang pretty much the same.
Id rank the top 5
Green
Doughty
Letang
Yandle
Enstrom
No love for Letang on your lists? He is putting up great points and has some pretty great peripheral stats as well.
12 team roto with 6 keepers, G A P +/- PIM PPP SOG, W SV% SHO
C-Crosby Spezza Connolly
L-Smyth Rolston Malone Sullivan
R-Hemsky Ryan Ryder Backes Fleischmann Cleary
D-Phaneuf Rafalski Whitney Pitkanen
G-Lundqvist Bryzgalov Theodore Rinne
he is second on Deans and third on mine ? how is that no love?Originally Posted by Anonymous
I think Buf had a hot start to the season and doesn't rank with the rest. I'd attribute a portion of his pace to playing with Enstrom, who is extremely solid.
I don't think Letang will sustain in future years as Goligoski will get more time.
Green will be back on pace when the Capitals sort themselves out, with the addition of Karlsson.
My ranking is very similar:
Green
Doughty
Yandle
Enstrom
Karlsson
Karlsson has shown tremendous ability even this year playing with an awful Ottawa team. He'll only continue to improve as the Sens get better.
(I'm lucky enough to own the middle three, so some bias)
Doughty and Letang are both top 3 D in my list. Doughty is a better D, but I would pick Letang before because he plays with Crosby/Malkin.
my list
1) Green
2) Letang
3) Doughty
4) Keith
5) Yandle
1) 16 teams full keeper H2H. Start 9F, 4D, 1G, 2 Championships
pts: (D : 7 pts G /5 pts A), (F : 5pts G /3 pts A), (G : 10 pts W / 5 pts SO), (D/F : 1 pt +/-, 0.5 pts PIM, 0.1 FOW, 0.2 Hits, 0.3 pts SOG, PP and SH).
Forward : Aho, Svechnikov, PLDubois, Giroux, Couture, Wheeler, Cozens, Karlsson, Vrana, Anderson,Greenway,
Defenses : Dahlin, Fox, Doughty, Toews, , Slavin, Miller
Goalies : Oettinger, Vanecek, Bobrovsky
Prospects : Dostal, Schmid, Chinakhov, Bordeleau, Ostlund, Brindley, Gulyayev
This is exactly how I have the top 5.
As an aside, I don't completely understand all of the talk about Goligoski taking away from Letang, or actually leapfrogging him. Goli has an awesome shot, but is not as good an offensive... or defensive... talent as Letang. Plus, he's two years older AND behind in development compared to Letang.
15 GM Keeper League w/Roto Scoring (G, A, +/-, PIM, PPP, HITS | W, GAA, SV%, SHO)
Start 4 C, 4 LW, 4 RW, 6 D, 2 G (23-man rosters) | Protect 10 players w/a max of 1 goalie
C - Crosby*, Malkin* (C/R), Tavares*, Giroux* (C/R)
L - Duchene* (C/L), Marleau* (C/L), Galchenyuk (C/L), Ott (C/L), Lee (C/L)
R - Kane* (C/R), St. Louis, Neil, Clutterbuck
D - Yandle*, Carlson*, Gardiner, Gudas, Daley, Bieksa, Schenn
G - Lundqvist*, Rinne, Kuemper
Green, then Doughty. Letang, Yandle are great options after them.
Yahoo Full keeper Dynasty League | 20 Teams, 4C 4LW 4RW 6D 2G 3BN |
Categories: (G A +- PPP PIM FOW SOG HITS BLK | W SV GAA SV% SHO)
C - Monahan, Kadri, Barzal, Dubois
LW - Marchand, Benn, Guentzel, Kreider
RW - Laine, DeBrincat, Fischer, Tuch
D - Karlsson, Muzzin, Niskanen, Skjei, Matheson, Forbort
G - Bishop, Lehner
BN - Jankowski, Perlini
Farm
C - Norris
RW - Kyrou
D - Brannstrom
G - Gillies
doughty is good but fowler will be better and letang and yandle are better right now
keeper league rotisserie and pts are
goals, assista. pts, plus/ minus, pims, ppp, shp, gwg
goalie pts- wins, g.a., g.a.a., sa, sv, sv%, so
players are
c- j.benn, tavares,h.sedin, d.stepan,
rw- ,perry, e.malkin, d, byfuglien, t.toffoli
lw- d.sedin, e.kane, m.lucic, l.couture
d-men- yandle, fowler, oel, d.doughty, t.enstrom ,m.rielly j.trouba, h.lindholm
g- a.niemi, m.a.fleury, s.bobrovsky, j.markstrom,
you get to keep everyone and dress 3 per forward position and 2 utility as well as 5 d-men. 82 games for each spot
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