The Nabokov Novelle

[mister_mcgoo]

I don't think you can really compare professional sports and their rules and systems to an everyday commercial environment. Using that logic, allowing trades would be a stupid rule too. For example, I sign a contract to happily work for Apple, but they need a game programmer so after a year and a half they trade me to Sega, forcing me to move and work on a company I never intended to when I signed my contract.

not unusual at all actually...I dunno what the company you work for is like but many large companies will relocate employees to other cities to save money or increase productivity...the company I work for now for example is a huge conglomerate that has dozens and dozens of child companies, people move around a lot...often employers will send their good employees to other locations to head up the opening of a new office for example, and on the flip-side, employees can also request to move to a new location or company (take me, I started out in ATL, then moved to a parallel company in NYC, then moved to the parent company in NY, all within a few years. Its not a perfect analogy but its close

[letnry]

not unusual at all actually...I dunno what the company you work for is like but many large companies will relocate employees to other cities to save money or increase productivity...the company I work for now for example is a huge conglomerate that has dozens and dozens of child companies, people move around a lot...often employers will send their good employees to other locations to head up the opening of a new office for example, and on the flip-side, employees can also request to move to a new location or company (take me, I started out in ATL, then moved to a parallel company in NYC, then moved to the parent company in NY, all within a few years. Its not a perfect analogy but its close

Yeah, I understand that and agree relocation within a specific organization is probably quite common. I was referring more to moves between competing companies.

As an aside, how long were you in Atlanta? Been here for the last 3+ years myself. Ready to move along though, haha!

[mister_mcgoo]

Yeah, I understand that and agree relocation within a specific organization is probably quite common. I was referring more to moves between competing companies.

As an aside, how long were you in Atlanta? Been here for the last 3+ years myself. Ready to move along though, haha!

yeah like I said, the analogy isn't perfect, but if you factor in no trade clauses and the like its a little more apt... but I was trying to focus on the 'right to work' aspect of it more than anything, basically that there are very few jobs where you don't have the choice to work for whom you choose.

I was in Atlanta for almost a decade

[93213]

Well there have been rumblings about changing it so that you have to sign the Euro players before Jan. 1 to avoid waivers. Not sure this would have helped here, but maybe Nabby would have just signed sooner.

I don't really have an answer as to what might work better, but I don't really mind what it is now either. All Nabby had to do, if he wasn't willing to go onto waivers and play for a loser, was wait for July 1.
Now he's put himself in a very crappy situation and I have to believe he knew it was a possibility.

The fact that there's no way out for him now is the shittier part to me.

[holdUP]

I was trying to focus on the 'right to work' aspect of it more than anything, basically that there are very few jobs where you don't have the choice to work for whom you choose.

Also very few jobs where you get paid 500k+ to play a sport for a living.
pro sports != real life

[Bomm Bastic]

because at the end of the 09-10 season Nabokov became an Unrestricted Free Agent...what does the word 'unrestricted' mean to you? To me it means you can sign where you want without restriction, not be forced to go thru waivers just because you chose to spend a year in another league, that's why its stupid

That, I agree with...

[93213]

I was thinking of a way to equate it McGoo and I came up with this.

You decide you want to be a sports writer and write away, get a job with a decent site and build a career. You then apply for a job at Dobber hockey and get hired BUT you have to go on waivers and Eklund picks you up and you are forced to write rumors for him for a year!

Is that what you mean by unfair and stupid?

[GoalieGuild]

I was thinking of a way to equate it McGoo and I came up with this.

You decide you want to be a sports writer and write away, get a job with a decent site and build a career. You then apply for a job at Dobber hockey and get hired BUT you have to go on waivers and Eklund picks you up and you are forced to write rumors for him for a year!

Is that what you mean by unfair and stupid?

This made me laugh a little haha. I think that's close, but writing fantasy articles is not the same as writing crazy rumors. And there's no way Eklund's site is in the same league as Dobber's.

Maybe it would be like going on waivers and some much smaller and less successful fantasy hockey website picked you up and you're forced to write fantasy articles for them for a year.

[93213]

Yeah, I wanted to make it TSN and use Dreger as the example. I would love to read Dreger's diary during a year where Eklund was his boss.

[mister_mcgoo]

I was thinking of a way to equate it McGoo and I came up with this.

You decide you want to be a sports writer and write away, get a job with a decent site and build a career. You then apply for a job at Dobber hockey and get hired BUT you have to go on waivers and Eklund picks you up and you are forced to write rumors for him for a year!

Is that what you mean by unfair and stupid?

yeah that's not a bad analogy...but as GG notes, Eklund isn't even in the same league as Dobber...in fact, he's not even playing the same sport to be honest...and the sport he IS playing is entirely make-believe. So he's like 3-4 degrees of separation away...but yes, it would be like being forced to go write for the Outhouse Times Picayune when you want to write for TSN

[93213]

Here's another theoretical scenario. I don't the rules so maybe this isn't even possible in any way, but lets look at it this way. What if Ryan Miller decides he no longer wants to play for the Sabres and ends his contract amicably in November. Should he then be allowed to sign with Detroit in January? Can he? What is the rule on that?

[Instant Karma]

Here's another theoretical scenario. I don't the rules so maybe this isn't even possible in any way, but lets look at it this way. What if Ryan Miller decides he no longer wants to play for the Sabres and ends his contract amicably in November. Should he then be allowed to sign with Detroit in January? Can he? What is the rule on that?

IIRC, Miller would not have to go through the waiver process because in your scenario he started the season in the NHL (and counted against somebody's cap). I believe the issue with Nabakov is that he started the season in the KHL.

[93213]

IIRC, Miller would not have to go through the waiver process because in your scenario he started the season in the NHL (and counted against somebody's cap). I believe the issue with Nabakov is that he started the season in the KHL.

Yeah. That much I know, but stops a player from doing that?

[Instant Karma]

Yeah. That much I know, but stops a player from doing that?

I don't think anything does, AFAIK. You just don't see contracts being voided too often.

[mister_mcgoo]

IIRC, Miller would not have to go through the waiver process because in your scenario he started the season in the NHL (and counted against somebody's cap). I believe the issue with Nabakov is that he started the season in the KHL.

see that's totally unfair IMO, why does it matter what league you're playing in? I'm struggling to think of a reason for the rule or how the system might be abused were the rule not in place but I cannot come up with anything