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    Whichever one can net you a LW
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    haha funny. I plan on drafting LW to start (2nd overall) Doan has RW,LW eligibility....usually..
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    Ah ha! I didn't realize that (damn ESPN has ruined my knowledge of dual elig)

    Hmm...that's a real tough call. For position reasons I might go with Doan. Doan's secondary stats will be closer to Rafalski that one might think.
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    Well, Doan will probably get 70+, great keeper. Rafalski is a 50+ d-man, looking around, I would like to have 4 if posible, Green Rafalski and 2 others that I can't name cause some of my competitors are on here. lol...

    I don't know, I am stuck on this one. My original thought is to keep Rafalski, but which one of these guys is easier to replace?
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    I'd keep both and drop Alfredsson. Doan usually having dual-eligibility, being 4 years younger and usually contributing to the FW-category as well is more valuable than Alfredsson in my opionion. Rafalski on the other hand is top D on a great team and I'd rather have him too on my team than Alfredsson.

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    Took the thought right out of my head Carcillo. I wasn't going to recommend it just yet, but, at least suggest the idea. I think Rafalski dips a bit this year. Still will be elite, but, a dip nonetheless. Would either of these guys go at #1? Will there be more attractive options for you at #2?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcillo View Post
    I'd keep both and drop Alfredsson. Doan usually having dual-eligibility, being 4 years younger and usually contributing to the FW-category as well is more valuable than Alfredsson in my opionion. Rafalski on the other hand is top D on a great team and I'd rather have him too on my team than Alfredsson.
    Great thought!

    I believe that Doan will get 70 and Alfredsson 75, so you will lose five points. Doan, however, is great on those secondary stats.

    My only concern here is that Alfie has a last Hurrah and goes out with an 80+ point season.

    I would take that risk and go with Doan.

    It simply makes no sense to drop Rafalski, one of the league's top scoring D, for either Doan or Alfie. You have to keep him.
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    Alfie's not going anywhere...

    it is silly to think that because Alfy had only 70 + points this season that he isn't going to get 80 or 90+ again. I would rather keep him with the potential of 80 to 90+ than Doan will only get 70+ tops. He has never cleared 80...
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    I too would keep Rafalski, he will be way too tough to replace based on the other teams that will probably protect their top d as well. If you're lucky you'd be able to pick up a guy like Suter early in the draft (after your LW of course). I like Doan for being a well-rounded stats guy, but with the situation in Phoenix right now and all the questions surrounding who might play with Doan on a night-to-night basis, he's your safest drop.
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    Who are some of the LW available?

    With Green do you need Rafalsky? I see you're in Michigan though so watching him is always nice. At first I was going to say drop him, but replacing him is hard, where-as finding a 70 pt LW to replace Doan might be far easier to do... seems like Frolov is always available!

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    Frolov will be available and Kariya as well... Michalek, Tanguay (signing or what geez?) Hartnell, Blake, Tkachuk, Kozlov, etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carcillo View Post
    I'd keep both and drop Alfredsson. Doan usually having dual-eligibility, being 4 years younger and usually contributing to the FW-category as well is more valuable than Alfredsson in my opionion. Rafalski on the other hand is top D on a great team and I'd rather have him too on my team than Alfredsson.
    I was going to suggest something similar, but the player I was thinking of dropping instead was Koivu. I know a lot of people love him here, but I don't see his upside being all that great... maybe a point per game if all the pieces fall into place for him. Actually, I think the biggest loss in not keeping Koivu would be the faceoffs (he's decent on faceoffs). However, you already have three great center keepers, and we all know that centers are much easier to replace than wingers.

    I wouldn't drop Alfie. I think he still has 2 or 3 seasons of great production ahead of him. Rafalski is a definite keep, and Doan is a very solid across the board player that not only gives your team better balance but I actually think he's a better long-term player to have than Koivu.

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    Thanks, I am keeping koivu cause he got 67 and had over 800 faceoffs good for 3rd in the league. behind Horcoff and Crosby... I think he will clear 70 and repeat the faceoff success....

    I lose out with Malkin as he sucks in the faceoff circle. I hope he works on it this summer... and Savard and Richards are decent. Koivu puts me over the top..anyway...

    I think I will stick with Rafalski, if he gets 55+ then it will be worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaborlick View Post
    Alfie's not going anywhere...

    it is silly to think that because Alfy had only 70 + points this season that he isn't going to get 80 or 90+ again. I would rather keep him with the potential of 80 to 90+ than Doan will only get 70+ tops. He has never cleared 80...
    I don't think that because Alfy had only 70 + points this season that he isn't going to get 80 or 90+ again.

    I think that Alfy is approaching 40 years of age, and at around 37 or 38, most players tend to slow down. Happened to Sakic, to Yzerman and to Sundin. I think that Alfy had only 70 last year largely because of his age. On that basis, I do not see him approaching 80 again. I acknowledge the possibility, but I would not draft him for anything more than 75.

    BTW, Alfy is easily one of my favourites to ever play the game.
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