crazy dynasty trade need time sensitive advice

[Mikerosen]

"fantasy advice predators who dont know no means no?" what? I don't think anyone gave a rude comment. people were just trying to help.

with that said rebuilding or not side A by a mile and more. side B is extremely underwhelming for me. of course, that might not be true if there is serious salary cap implications, or dynasty rules we don't know about. but since you don't care to divulge (I do the same btw, just don't act like such a dick about it) then I can't help further. but if I saw a rebuilding team take that package for side A, I would be laughing my ass off.

[caochad]

"fantasy advice predators who dont know no means no?" what? I don't think anyone gave a rude comment. people were just trying to help.

with that said rebuilding or not side A by a mile and more. side B is extremely underwhelming for me. of course, that might not be true if there is serious salary cap implications, or dynasty rules we don't know about. but since you don't care to divulge (I do the same btw, just don't act like such a dick about it) then I can't help further. but if I saw a rebuilding team take that package for side A, I would be laughing my ass off.

yeah literally no other implications except that the trading eichel side has a logjam at center(not enough to influence the deal so i didnt mention it) and is sick of eichel you know what you've been decent enough about it here is the trading eichel side's roster

C
Eichel
Bedard
Rossi
Zegras
Rasmussen
Pinto
Kotkaniemi
Reichel
Newhook
Novak
Hayton

LW
Caufield
Tolvanen
Zegras
Rasmussen
Reichel
Newhook
Jeannot
Hayton
Afanasyev

RW
Caufield
Tolvanen
Jeannot

D
Hanifin
Drysdale
Byram
Lundkvist
Boqvist
Klingberg
Korchinski

G
Helly
Wolf
Tarasov

No stat prospects
Comesso
Dach
Gajan(unintentional blackhawk heavy roster)


the team is locked into Celebrini and as you can see is well beyond rebuilding
and will not come close to competing in the trade window for helly and eichel who have limited trade market due to goalie distribution and being eichel so it was looked at that raymond for eichel is close and the age really hammers it and then pyotr and stank for helly and zegras was sketchy(zegras is added to get them to send tavares to a 3rd party to have the 3rd party send pyotr(could you see why adding this makes it more convoluted to talk about)

the trade would give that team the top prospect skater dman and goalie alongside bedard and celebrini

[Mikerosen]

yeah literally no other implications except that the trading eichel side has a logjam at center(not enough to influence the deal so i didnt mention it) and is sick of eichel you know what you've been decent enough about it here is the trading eichel side's roster

thanks for the info! well I definitely get where you're coming from, and if the trade market for these players is really that poor than I get the desire to make some moves however you can make them to make your vision come to life. I think that if I am offering just my opinion though, Raymond for Eichel isn't very close at all as you state. Raymond is pacing for his best season at 66 points. Eichel is easily a PPG+ guy and at 27, still might have another 8+ years give or take of elite play. that should far outstrip the time it takes to rebuild. so that leaves Helly + zegras for stankoven and pyotr? we don't even know what pyotr looks like in a few seasons, let alone by the end of this one. stankoven is an undoubtly exciting prospect who gets his flowers around these parts, but he is still undersized and hasn't touched the NHL yet. helly for just pyotr and stankoven? I can live with it, especially if you're convinced on pyotr long term. but with the first part of the trade AND zegras that team is just stealing from you.

I am still not sure how many players you guys start and things like that, but I would try reversing your logic here for roster building. if players like eichel and helly are SO cheap, why not package some of your depth and futures for guys that can help you win in the near term around Bedard/eichel/helly/celebrini?

[random-d]

"standard scoring"

I have never played a dynasty league that had "standard scoring". Standard by what measure? Yahoo? Fantrax? CBS?

If you think scoring settings have such an insignificant impact on trade outcomes that it's unnecessary to specify them, than I don't think you can trust the advice of anyone thus far that's offered an opinion without knowing that information. They're evaluating on name value only, zero context aside from that.

I'll tell you what, I'll sell you my Mazda for $56,000. It might be a rare RX-7 or it might be a dilapidated Miata... I'll just keep that information to myself and you can decide if it's worth it.

[Belexus75]

"standard scoring"

I have never played a dynasty league that had "standard scoring". Standard by what measure? Yahoo? Fantrax? CBS?

If you think scoring settings have such an insignificant impact on trade outcomes that it's unnecessary to specify them, than I don't think you can trust the advice of anyone thus far that's offered an opinion without knowing that information. They're evaluating on name value only, zero context aside from that.

I'll tell you what, I'll sell you my Mazda for $56,000. It might be a rare RX-7 or it might be a dilapidated Miata... I'll just keep that information to myself and you can decide if it's worth it.

lol

[senryu]

I'll tell you what, I'll sell you my Mazda for $56,000. It might be a rare RX-7 or it might be a dilapidated Miata... I'll just keep that information to myself and you can decide if it's worth it.

If that Mazda is painted in the No Name yellow and black color scheme with "car" lettering on the side, I'm buying that at $56k regardless of model.

[random-d]

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I don't actually own this particular car

But that's a $75k car if.... You can find a mechanic for it and depending of course on mileage and maintenance.

[chuckcouples]

Eichel/Hellebuyck side by a very large margin.

One side gives you two well established superstars while the other side gives you 3 pieces of hope. Will Stankoven be better than Zegras...I doubt it? Will Pyotr be better than Hellebuyck...not for at least a few more years but I doubt he's ever close to as good.

[ex_factor]

if any of that was relevant it would be in there

the last one is pretty obv one is a win now team and 1 is a rebuilding team

so at the end of the day in a vacuum what side is better in dynasty in a points league long term

What an absolutely boneheaded response.

Good luck mate.

[BloodSport]

if any of that was relevant it would be in there

the last one is pretty obv one is a win now team and 1 is a rebuilding team

so at the end of the day in a vacuum what side is better in dynasty in a points league long term

Long term? Take the younger side of the deal because they will be playing longer. Hope this helps.