Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 28

Thread: [TRADE] Elias Lindholm to Canucks, Kuzmenko+ to Flames

  1. #1
    pmorrow's Avatar
    pmorrow is offline
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    10,910
    Rep Power
    40

    Dobber Sports Monster

    Default [TRADE] Elias Lindholm to Canucks, Kuzmenko+ to Flames

    Calgary Flames
    @NHLFlames
    ·
    1m
    TRADE ALERT!

    The #Flames have acquired Andrei Kuzmenko, a 2024 first round pick, Hunter Brzustewicz, Joni Jurmo and a conditional 2024 fourth round pick from the Vancouver Canucks in exchange for Elias Lindholm: http://cflam.es/4bllZKM

    12 team H2H Most Cats Wins; Keep 6/winner keeps 7; G A PPP +/- SHP SOG HIT BLK PIM // W SV GAA SV% SHO
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 6D, 2G, 5 bench

    C - McDavid, Crosby, Tavares
    LW - DeBrincat
    RW - Meier, Miller
    D -
    G - Jarry

  2. #2
    pmorrow's Avatar
    pmorrow is offline
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    10,910
    Rep Power
    40

    Dobber Sports Monster

    Default Re: Elias Lindholm talks intensifying between Vancouver and Calgary?

    Kevin Weekes
    @KevinWeekes
    With the @Canucks that could include Lindholm from @NHLFlames #Flames for Kuzmenko and some other pieces .
    #Canucks #HockeyX #HockeyTwitter

    12 team H2H Most Cats Wins; Keep 6/winner keeps 7; G A PPP +/- SHP SOG HIT BLK PIM // W SV GAA SV% SHO
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 6D, 2G, 5 bench

    C - McDavid, Crosby, Tavares
    LW - DeBrincat
    RW - Meier, Miller
    D -
    G - Jarry

  3. #3
    Feenom's Avatar
    Feenom is offline
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    4,520
    Location
    On a beach
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports All-Star

    Default Re: Elias Lindholm talks intensifying between Vancouver and Calgary?

    True to Jimmy’s word. He hinted to the OD guys that he may pull something off before the deadline and maybe during AS week.

  4. #4
    pmorrow's Avatar
    pmorrow is offline
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    10,910
    Rep Power
    40

    Dobber Sports Monster

    Default Re: [TRADE] Elias Lindholm to Canucks, Kuzmenko to Flames

    Now apparently Chris Tanev was part of the deal and might be in a second deal to the Canucks. Wowza

    12 team H2H Most Cats Wins; Keep 6/winner keeps 7; G A PPP +/- SHP SOG HIT BLK PIM // W SV GAA SV% SHO
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 6D, 2G, 5 bench

    C - McDavid, Crosby, Tavares
    LW - DeBrincat
    RW - Meier, Miller
    D -
    G - Jarry

  5. #5
    pmorrow's Avatar
    pmorrow is offline
    Join Date
    May 2011
    Posts
    10,910
    Rep Power
    40

    Dobber Sports Monster

    Default Re: [TRADE] Elias Lindholm to Canucks, Kuzmenko to Flames

    deal official.

    Calgary Flames
    @NHLFlames
    ·
    1m
    TRADE ALERT!

    The #Flames have acquired Andrei Kuzmenko, a 2024 first round pick, Hunter Brzustewicz, Joni Jurmo and a conditional 2024 fourth round pick from the Vancouver Canucks in exchange for Elias Lindholm: http://cflam.es/4bllZKM

    12 team H2H Most Cats Wins; Keep 6/winner keeps 7; G A PPP +/- SHP SOG HIT BLK PIM // W SV GAA SV% SHO
    3 C, 3 LW, 3 RW, 6D, 2G, 5 bench

    C - McDavid, Crosby, Tavares
    LW - DeBrincat
    RW - Meier, Miller
    D -
    G - Jarry

  6. #6
    gogoayane's Avatar
    gogoayane is offline
    Join Date
    Jul 2010
    Posts
    819
    Rep Power
    19

    Dobber Sports Initiate

    Default Re: [TRADE] Elias Lindholm to Canucks, Kuzmenko to Flames

    Pretty good haul for a pending UFA

  7. #7
    senryu's Avatar
    senryu is offline
    Join Date
    May 2010
    Posts
    3,904
    Location
    Winden, DEU
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Star

    Default Re: [TRADE] Elias Lindholm to Canucks, Kuzmenko to Flames

    Quote Originally Posted by gogoayane View Post
    Pretty good haul for a pending UFA
    Agreed.

  8. #8
    Location
    Chicago
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Sage

    Default Re: [TRADE] Elias Lindholm to Canucks, Kuzmenko to Flames

    Vancouver has been killing it going back to the Hronek trade. Good trade for both teams.
    Last edited by Daydream Nation; January 31, 2024 at 9:21 PM. Reason: correction
    10 Team, 60 Player Roster
    G, A, PTS, PPP, PIM, BLKs, Hits, +/-, Shots, W, GAA, SV%, Saves
    C- JHughes, Trocheck, RThomas, Zegras, Norris, Bennett, PLD, Stephenson, Danualt
    RW- Raymond, Stone, TWilson, Toffoli, KJohnson, Nyqvist, Zary
    LW- Keller, Schmaltz, Bunting, Skinner, Barbashev, Duclair
    D- QHughes, McAvoy, Doughty, Heiskanen, LHughes, Mintyukov
    G- Shesterkin, Demko, Andersen, Kahkonen, Levi, Tarasov, Annunen

    Notable Prospects- Nikishin, Kulich, Leonard, Wood, Perreault, Lekkermaki, Ostlund, Othmman, REvans, L-Heureux, Ivanov, Murashov

  9. #9
    Feenom's Avatar
    Feenom is offline
    Join Date
    Jul 2016
    Posts
    4,520
    Location
    On a beach
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports All-Star

    Default Re: [TRADE] Elias Lindholm to Canucks, Kuzmenko to Flames

    Kuz has his second chance. Hopefully he returns to his goal scoring form.

  10. #10
    Location
    Beaumont, AB
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Icon

    Default Re: [TRADE] Elias Lindholm to Canucks, Kuzmenko to Flames

    That's a great deal for Calgary. Lindholm has been not good this year.

  11. #11
    Location
    Alberta, Canada
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Grand Master

    Default Re: Elias Lindholm talks intensifying between Vancouver and Calgary?

    Quote Originally Posted by pmorrow View Post
    Both of the key pieces (Lind and Kuz) have agreed to waive their clauses, per LeBrun
    Doesn’t matter now but Lindholm did not have any trade protection, only Kuzmenko did.

  12. #12
    Location
    Alberta, Canada
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Grand Master

    Default Re: [TRADE] Elias Lindholm to Canucks, Kuzmenko to Flames

    Pretty good deal for both teams. Lindholm is obviously a massive upgrade at 2C over Sutter. Down year for sure but he clearly was playing with a bad attitude this year (shouldn’t be a problem on a competitive playoff team) and was just going through the motions. He’s clearly not a driver 1C, but he’s great with good players, and he’ll play with good players in Van.

    From the Calgary perspective, get a 1st with no conditions, potential 3rd, a prospect with roughly 2nd round value. Pretty good haul. Brzustewicz has really popped this year but still likely projects as an offensive 4 at his top end, but that’s still a nice value. Jurmo probably never even becomes an impact AHLer, but is what it is. Kuzmenko was obviously a cap dump. Will be interesting if Calgary can turn him into more assets though, whether at this deadline or next. Don’t really see Calgary getting much more than this from any other team or Van with an extension in place either, so they did well.

  13. #13
    Location
    Nova Scotia
    Rep Power
    40

    Dobber Sports Deity

    Default Re: [TRADE] Elias Lindholm to Canucks, Kuzmenko+ to Flames

    I also like it for both teams. It certainly seems like Calgary wasn't going to be re-signing Lindholm although it's not like they didn't try. Lindholm is looking for big money, and will no doubt get it, but someone is going to overpay for a guy who played his best hockey with Tkachuk and Gaudreau and after they left, we see the warts. Most guys excel in contract years to get top dollar in the upcoming off-season but for whatever reason, it hasn't worked out that way for Lindholm. Either way, he's going to get a new shot in Vancouver to get into the playoffs and possibly contend for a Cup. Very typical of Rutherford (I thought Patrick Allvin was the GM in Vancouver??) to make these types of deals well in advance of the trade deadline. He did say to not be surprised if he doesn't pull off another deal before the end of the All-Star break, so stand by to stand by for more fun in Vancouver.

    For Calgary, the biggest part of this deal will be the 1st round pick even though it will be near the end of the 1st. As I mentioned, it seemed apparent they weren't going to get a Lindholm deal done so Conroy has done a good job getting something for what will most likely be nothing in the summer. I am not the biggest Kuzmenko fan, especially when you consider he still has another year on his current $5.5M deal (speaking of making the most of a contract year last year). That could be a tough sell to move him out for much when you consider his contract but you never know. The Brzustewicz kid is having a really good year in the OHL this year so there's that. This is just the start of the sell off for Calgary at this point.

    I just think both teams got what they were hoping for. I dont know if Calgary making this trade this far from the deadline was a good thing for them or a bad thing. I am sure Conroy circled back to other suiters and asked if they were ready to talk hardball at this point, so a bird in the hand I suppose.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


    "Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."

  14. #14
    Location
    Chicago
    Rep Power
    50

    Dobber Sports Sage

    Default Re: [TRADE] Elias Lindholm to Canucks, Kuzmenko to Flames

    Quote Originally Posted by rataylor22 View Post
    Pretty good deal for both teams. Lindholm is obviously a massive upgrade at 2C over Sutter. Down year for sure but he clearly was playing with a bad attitude this year (shouldn’t be a problem on a competitive playoff team) and was just going through the motions. He’s clearly not a driver 1C, but he’s great with good players, and he’ll play with good players in Van.

    From the Calgary perspective, get a 1st with no conditions, potential 3rd, a prospect with roughly 2nd round value. Pretty good haul. Brzustewicz has really popped this year but still likely projects as an offensive 4 at his top end, but that’s still a nice value. Jurmo probably never even becomes an impact AHLer, but is what it is. Kuzmenko was obviously a cap dump. Will be interesting if Calgary can turn him into more assets though, whether at this deadline or next. Don’t really see Calgary getting much more than this from any other team or Van with an extension in place either, so they did well.
    I agree with this. Calgary did very well but this is exactly what Vancouver needed to do. With Petersson and Hronek's contract taking a big jump next season coupled with the season they are currently having, they need to take a big swing for this season. Plus, they didn't give up a premium asset (Letterkenny or Wallinder) and that 1st is going to be somewhere in the 20s, hopefully late 20s. Kuzmenko didn't fit Tocchet's style so moving on from him and his 5+ million cap hit for next year is a positive. And now this gives Tocchet the ability to keep the Lotto line together and have Lindholm center the #2 pushing Suter back to the 4th line keeping that dominant 3rd line intact. I'd be excited if I were a Vancouver fan. I'd give this trade an A grade for Calgary and a B+ for Vancouver.
    Last edited by Daydream Nation; February 1, 2024 at 6:18 AM. Reason: missed word
    10 Team, 60 Player Roster
    G, A, PTS, PPP, PIM, BLKs, Hits, +/-, Shots, W, GAA, SV%, Saves
    C- JHughes, Trocheck, RThomas, Zegras, Norris, Bennett, PLD, Stephenson, Danualt
    RW- Raymond, Stone, TWilson, Toffoli, KJohnson, Nyqvist, Zary
    LW- Keller, Schmaltz, Bunting, Skinner, Barbashev, Duclair
    D- QHughes, McAvoy, Doughty, Heiskanen, LHughes, Mintyukov
    G- Shesterkin, Demko, Andersen, Kahkonen, Levi, Tarasov, Annunen

    Notable Prospects- Nikishin, Kulich, Leonard, Wood, Perreault, Lekkermaki, Ostlund, Othmman, REvans, L-Heureux, Ivanov, Murashov

  15. #15
    Location
    Hamilton, ON
    Rep Power
    40

    Dobber Sports Titan

    Default Re: [TRADE] Elias Lindholm to Canucks, Kuzmenko+ to Flames

    Kuzmenko:
    124gp, 47g, 48a, 95pts, 0.766ppg

    Lindholm:
    129gp, 31g, 65a, 96pts, 0.744ppg

    There's WAY more to Lindholm's game than points. But it's not like he's put up his 2021-22 numbers recently. I also think adding Lindholm disrupts their lines quite a bit. What happens if Boeser and Lindholm don't work out? The good thing is they have runway in the season to test it all out.

    The price for lindholm wasn't huge either, and it's more it'll only look bad if 2 pieces in the trade hit.
    12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
    G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
    W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA

    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •