Forsberg/Reinhart/Aho or Kempe/M Tkachuk/Hischier

[LiamMcNair]

Hello,

I had the luxury of drafting Forsberg and Reinhart late this year, both one of the reasons I am in first

I have been offered the chance to cash in some of their early-season success:

My Forsberg/Reinhart/Aho For Kempe/M Tkachuk/Hischier

Offensive categories are G, A, PPP, SOG, Hit, and +/-

Worth accepting ?

[Swarley]

I would accept that trade, I think Forsberg and Reinhart both slow a bit and Forsberg has missed significant time every season since 2016, Aho seems a little off from previous years.
Kempe is a solid player and seems underrated, I think Tkachuk and Hischier do a lot better the rest of the season than they have.

[LuigiC173]

if this was keeper absolutely but being redraft I'm not about fixing what isn't broken if in first so I would pass. If you accept I get it though. Filip is playing out of his mind, hard to move.

[sweetcelly]

I'd do it.

[random-d]

I would accept that trade, I think Forsberg and Reinhart both slow a bit and Forsberg has missed significant time every season since 2016, Aho seems a little off from previous years.
Kempe is a solid player and seems underrated, I think Tkachuk and Hischier do a lot better the rest of the season than they have.

It's true Forsberg has been known to miss some games but the same can be said for Hischier and Forsberg scores at a better rate when he's playing.

if this was keeper absolutely but being redraft I'm not about fixing what isn't broken if in first so I would pass. If you accept I get it though. Filip is playing out of his mind, hard to move.

I agree with this. Right now you'd be selling low with this deal and in a one year league all that matters is what you currently have, which happens to be better right now than what you're being offered. I would keep what you have but I would be interested in seeing the rest of the roster, you might be able to make something work that's better for you.

[LiamMcNair]

if this was keeper absolutely but being redraft I'm not about fixing what isn't broken if in first so I would pass. If you accept I get it though. Filip is playing out of his mind, hard to move.

I know right? Forsberg is ranked in the top 10 atm under my league settings. I just am always looking to cash-in the guys I draft late for the premium players, but perhaps I just stay the course in this case

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I would accept that trade, I think Forsberg and Reinhart both slow a bit and Forsberg has missed significant time every season since 2016, Aho seems a little off from previous years.
Kempe is a solid player and seems underrated, I think Tkachuk and Hischier do a lot better the rest of the season than they have.

My thoughts exactly !

[LiamMcNair]

It's true Forsberg has been known to miss some games but the same can be said for Hischier and Forsberg scores at a better rate when he's playing.

I agree with this. Right now you'd be selling low with this deal and in a one year league all that matters is what you currently have, which happens to be better right now than what you're being offered. I would keep what you have but I would be interested in seeing the rest of the roster, you might be able to make something work that's better for you.

So the rest of my roster is as follows:

MacKinnon
Stutzle
Forsberg
Kreider
Reinhart
Meier
Dahlin
Hedman
Letang
Trouba
Bench: Vatrano/Aho

[Swarley]

[QUOTE=random-d;2266587]It's true Forsberg has been known to miss some games but the same can be said for Hischier and Forsberg scores at a better rate when he's playing.

Hischier scored at a better rate last year so your statement should say " forsberg is currently scoring at a better rate". If Tkachuk and Hischier didn't start the year slow this trade wouldn't even be offered, buying low on guys and selling high whether it's a one year or keeper is generally a great idea. Yes Hischier has had injury concerns as well but your gambling on 2 players having career years and a player to stay healthy that hasn't done so in many years. I'd much rather gamble on two players returning to form and Tkachuk is the best player in this deal. Taking injuries out of the equation and if all 6 players don't miss a game rest of the season, I feel fairly confident the players he will get will have more points. So to me this is an easy accept.

[Lil Gouda Fan]

Hit the accept button. M. Tkachuk is the best player in the trade and it is possible that Hischier could be the 2nd best player in the trade. I would do this trade.

[random-d]

Hischier scored at a better rate last year so your statement should say " forsberg is currently scoring at a better rate". If Tkachuk and Hischier didn't start the year slow this trade wouldn't even be offered, buying low on guys and selling high whether it's a one year or keeper is generally a great idea. Yes Hischier has had injury concerns as well but your gambling on 2 players having career years and a player to stay healthy that hasn't done so in many years. I'd much rather gamble on two players returning to form and Tkachuk is the best player in this deal. Taking injuries out of the equation and if all 6 players don't miss a game rest of the season, I feel fairly confident the players he will get will have more points. So to me this is an easy accept.

A career year for Forsberg would be around 90pts, his career high to date (from just 2 years ago) is 84 in less than 70 games. My statement is accurate, Forsberg's career pts/gm average is higher than Hischier's, he has always scored at a higher rate thus far in his career. That's especially true when you look at the numbers since 2016 (Hischier's first year).

Since 2017-18 season

Forsberg 0.93 pts/gm
Hischier 0.73 pts/gm

Since that same season they've both averaged close to 20 games missed per year. Hischier has already missed 11 this year. The other pieces are almost a wash, this is where you lose on that deal.

[Swarley]

A career year for Forsberg would be around 90pts, his career high to date (from just 2 years ago) is 84 in less than 70 games. My statement is accurate, Forsberg's career pts/gm average is higher than Hischier's, he has always scored at a higher rate thus far in his career. That's especially true when you look at the numbers since 2016 (Hischier's first year).

Since 2017-18 season

Forsberg 0.93 pts/gm
Hischier 0.73 pts/gm

Since that same season they've both averaged close to 20 games missed per year. Hischier has already missed 11 this year. The other pieces are almost a wash, this is where you lose on that deal.

At least include Forsbergs first years as well if your going to compare stats, excluding a players first 3 or 4 years and trying to compare total numbers isn't accurate. that brings there numbers a lot closer than what you put. Its safe to say we know what Forsbergs ceiling is, we don't know what Hischier's is. He is already missed his time this season, has Forsberg? No, will he? extremely likely. Your very short sighted in your views and opinions, I've noticed this in your other posts as well. To be able to differentiate between hot and cold starts and recognize injury history are both important aspect in Fantasy hockey. You do remember the last two years when Tkachuk had 104 and 109 points? This will be a fun post to look at later in the year.

[random-d]

This will be a fun post to look at later in the year.

Name	G	A	PTS	PPP	SOG	+/-	Hits
NICO HISCHIER	11	10	21	7	57	-3	14
ADRIAN KEMPE	15	22	37	11	122	16	45
MATTHEW TKACHUK	12	27	39	14	155	4	46
	38	59	97	32	334	17	105
SEBASTIAN AHO	15	32	47	20	114	9	12
FILIP FORSBERG	21	24	45	15	159	7	64
SAM REINHART	30	23	53	19	109	18	21
	66	79	145	54	382	34	97

[Swarley]

Haha too soon. But ya the 3 players he has have not slowed down and Forsberg has managed to stay healthy so far…
Tkachuk has 18 points in his last 10 games, Kempe doing well but Hischier lagging behind.

[Swarley]

Also we only need the stats from Nov 29th as that’s what matters here when the trade did or did not take place.
Tkachuk, Hischier, Kempe 55pts
Reinhart, Aho, Forsberg 71pts.
Will see how this looks at the end of the season.

[random-d]

I didn't do the final math but based on what I saw on a day-to-day I don't think very much changed.