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    I have an owner who's a big Caps fan and he loves Tom Wilson. I probably do not need the hits and PIM's that Wilson gives me. But I could use more PPP and scoring. I was thinking of offering Wilson + Burns for Kempe + Luke Hughes. Fantasyhockeygeek has me losing this trade by a bit, but I think mostly because they rate Hughes low - Dobber's pre-season projections don't see him on the #1 PP, I'm sure. And Wilson is rated high due to the hits and PIM's that I don't absolutely need. What do you guys think? Should I offer this trade? Ask for a bit more?

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    C: Kopitar, Jarvis (RW), Thomas
    RW: Wilson, Bratt (LW), Zuccarello, Svechnikov (LW)
    LW: B. Tkachuk, E.Kane, Boldy (RW)
    D: Matheson, Rielly, Dahlin, Burns
    G: Shesterkin, Vasilevskiy, Kochetkov
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    I’d be very surprised if that was accepted. You’d be robbing him blind.
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    9 F, 6 D; roster 3 G max
    G,A,PPP,SOG,BLKS,HITS - W,SO,SV%,Saves

    F: B Tkachuk, Stutzle, Eriksson Ek, Necas, Konecny, Cooley, Boldy, Lehkonen, Tippett
    D: Dahlin, Seider, Matheson, Durzi, Addison, Mintyukov
    G: Hill, Husso

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    Bench: L Hughes, Merzlikins, Terry, Tuch

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    Wow - think so? Fantasy Hockey Geek has me losing this trade 22-75! But I think those ratings are based on Hughes being a third pair D and no PP, and Burns being #1 PP again. But Burnsie is not getting #1 time, TDA is. And Hughes is now #1 PP. So I guess that all matters. The preseason rankings can be pretty off.
    C: Kopitar, Jarvis (RW), Thomas
    RW: Wilson, Bratt (LW), Zuccarello, Svechnikov (LW)
    LW: B. Tkachuk, E.Kane, Boldy (RW)
    D: Matheson, Rielly, Dahlin, Burns
    G: Shesterkin, Vasilevskiy, Kochetkov
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    Yes. You can try it - sometimes those fan tendencies can be very strong. See if he’ll bite.
    12 team Yahoo Roto keeper (keep 3)
    9 F, 6 D; roster 3 G max
    G,A,PPP,SOG,BLKS,HITS - W,SO,SV%,Saves

    F: B Tkachuk, Stutzle, Eriksson Ek, Necas, Konecny, Cooley, Boldy, Lehkonen, Tippett
    D: Dahlin, Seider, Matheson, Durzi, Addison, Mintyukov
    G: Hill, Husso

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    Bench: L Hughes, Merzlikins, Terry, Tuch

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    Default Re: trade idea - Wilson + for Kempe +?

    I would just ask for a lesser piece than Hughes to get it done. Kempe is quite a bit more valuable than Wilson and I think it's worth making it happen, but asking for Hughes might be a non-starter for the other GM.

    What lesser defensemen could you ask for instead?
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    D: McNabb, Ferraro, Hakanpaa, Lyabushkin, Samuelsson, Bernard-Docker, Emberson
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    Yeah, Luke Hughes is a "sexy" name right now, so that would likely nuke the trade. Settle for less or revamp would be my advice.
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    Thanks guys. He picked up Hughes from our FA list about 3 minutes before i was going to do it. My argument will be that he's a pickup that he can afford to lose, but he will probably laugh in my face. I sent the proposal just to get the negotiation started! He just might go for a one-for-one with Wilson and Kempe since he needs the hits and PIM's more than I do and he's a Caps homer. We will see.
    C: Kopitar, Jarvis (RW), Thomas
    RW: Wilson, Bratt (LW), Zuccarello, Svechnikov (LW)
    LW: B. Tkachuk, E.Kane, Boldy (RW)
    D: Matheson, Rielly, Dahlin, Burns
    G: Shesterkin, Vasilevskiy, Kochetkov
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    If the one for one works it’s a home run for you.
    12 team Yahoo Roto keeper (keep 3)
    9 F, 6 D; roster 3 G max
    G,A,PPP,SOG,BLKS,HITS - W,SO,SV%,Saves

    F: B Tkachuk, Stutzle, Eriksson Ek, Necas, Konecny, Cooley, Boldy, Lehkonen, Tippett
    D: Dahlin, Seider, Matheson, Durzi, Addison, Mintyukov
    G: Hill, Husso

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    Bench: L Hughes, Merzlikins, Terry, Tuch

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    I get that Hughes was a FA grab, but how a player landed on a team should not be factored into a trade. Unless it's a keeper where rounds and whether someone was a FA pick up or matter, all players are no different than others once their on someone's team. Long story short, don't expect him to value Hughes as a lucky FA grab even though, in reality, he was.
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