Markstrom vs Skinner

[Darkwing Puck]

Obviously Skinner's got some good things going for him in a keeper league: notably that he's younger and cheaper. But he's also a lot riskier as a keeper. He's only got 60 career starts and has Campbell lurking threatening to steal playing time. Meanwhile, Markstrom should bounce back from last season and has a stranglehold on the starting job in Calgary barring absolutely disastrous play over an extended period. I guess it's a question of which risk I prefer, and Skinner seems like the better way to go because his salary is less than half of Markstrom's. Thoughts?

[metaldude26]

In a salary cap league this isn't even close. Skinner by a mile. Goalies of just about any ilk are a risk as Markstrom's performance last season proves. In a cap league I want the best balance of playing for a good team and lowest salary and Skinner is a hit on those qualities.

[tweetdrivr]

Yeah I’m not going near head case Markstrom. I’m clearly Skinner as well.

[Darkwing Puck]

Yeah I’m not going near head case Markstrom. I’m clearly Skinner as well.

What makes you say he's a head case? I haven't seen anything to indicate he has problems with the mental aspect of the game.

[stevegamer]

Skinner. Younger, cheaper contract, and better team.

Situation breaks down like this:
Markstorm has Wolf lurking, and Vladar already there as backup. Vladar was slightly better than Markstrom last year. Markstrom is 8 years older than Vladar and 12 older than Wolf.

Skinner has Campbell as backup. Skinner was far better than Campbell last year. Skinner is 7 years younger than Campbell, who has been good as a backup/tandem except for one year as a starter, which got him paid.

3.4M can buy you a nice skater or two.

[finnys_fanatsy]

Skinner, fro teh reasons posted already, plus Campbell is a career backup (and i tell my leagues owner that all the time), ya...he had that run but i don't buy it, he didn't just get #1 good..

[Axeman33]

Personally I still like Markstrom. He had a terrible year last season but you can say that up and down their lineup. I don't think that's the norm for Markstrom.

Don't get me wrong, I like Skinner but I still think Campbell is going to get his opportunity to earn the big contract and I'm not sure last year was the norm for him either.

Yes, goalies are hard to predict but as much as people are down on Markstrom for being bad last year, people are high in Skinner this year for his year last season. We could easily see a flip flop for both. The difference for me is Markstrom and his proven track record. We don't have that on Skinner yet.

[lusshouse]

Personally I still like Markstrom. He had a terrible year last season but you can say that up and down their lineup. I don't think that's the norm for Markstrom.

Don't get me wrong, I like Skinner but I still think Campbell is going to get his opportunity to earn the big contract and I'm not sure last year was the norm for him either.

Yes, goalies are hard to predict but as much as people are down on Markstrom for being bad last year, people are high in Skinner this year for his year last season. We could easily see a flip flop for both. The difference for me is Markstrom and his proven track record. We don't have that on Skinner yet.

This.

Except there's almost 4M cap hit difference. So I guess it really comes down to -- who would you be able to keep/draft and drop who instead.

[tweetdrivr]

What makes you say he's a head case? I haven't seen anything to indicate he has problems with the mental aspect of the game.

https://theathletic.com/3959998/2022...shared_article

[metaldude26]

Personally I still like Markstrom. He had a terrible year last season but you can say that up and down their lineup. I don't think that's the norm for Markstrom.

Don't get me wrong, I like Skinner but I still think Campbell is going to get his opportunity to earn the big contract and I'm not sure last year was the norm for him either.

Yes, goalies are hard to predict but as much as people are down on Markstrom for being bad last year, people are high in Skinner this year for his year last season. We could easily see a flip flop for both. The difference for me is Markstrom and his proven track record. We don't have that on Skinner yet.

My approach on this very much mirrors the Dobber discussion from today's ramblings. I think both guys are in a similar tier. If I'm drafting in a one-year pool with no salary I am taking whichever guy falls and it may just be Markstrom. But with salary, it's a no-brainer. Instead of the flexibility created by waiting in the draft, you jump on the flexibility created by opening up more salary.

[chuckcouples]

Do you want the almost guaranteed 60 starts from Markstrom on a Calgary team that should be much better than last year or the likely 45 starts from Skinner on a better offensive but not likely better defensive team in Edmonton? That's the choice you are making and their salaries play a large part of that decision. The other big question is what can you get with cap savings? You have to look at it as Markstrom vs Skinner plus $3M in cap space.

[LawMan]

Do you want the almost guaranteed 60 starts from Markstrom on a Calgary team that should be much better than last year or the likely 45 starts from Skinner on a better offensive but not likely better defensive team in Edmonton? That's the choice you are making and their salaries play a large part of that decision. The other big question is what can you get with cap savings? You have to look at it as Markstrom vs Skinner plus $3M in cap space.

+1 to this breakdown.
Markstrom - more starts
Skinner - higher win% and cap savings.
Probably similar GAA and SV%

Cap savings are only useful if they improve your team elsewhere.