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    Some (early) team O/U.
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    ANA 67.5
    ARI 74.5
    BOS 100.5
    BUF 92.5
    CGY 93.5
    CAR 107.5
    CHI 72.5
    COL 106.5
    CBJ 73.5
    DAL 104.5
    DET 85.5
    EDM 105.5
    FLA 98.5
    LA 100.5
    MIN 96.5
    MON 71.5
    NAS 87.5
    NJD 105.5
    NYI 91.5
    NYR 101.5
    OTT 91.5
    PHI 75.5
    PIT 96.5
    SJS 67.5
    SEA 93.5
    STL 87.5
    TBL 97.5
    TOR 106.5
    VAN 88.5
    VGK 103.5
    WAS 85.5
    WPG 91.5

    CGY slotted in as #8 team in East.

    These are all showing as -115/-115 (which means they are taking 15% for bet cost).
    Some... CAR, EDM, TBL, WSH are -130/EVEN (which means you get less for taking the... popular... over)
    Some... SJS, PHI are EVEN/-130 (which means you get less for taking the... popular... under)

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    I'll take the over on ARZ, EDM, NJ, NYI, and CLB.
    The under on SJ, COL, VAN, WSH, and CHI.
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    Will be fascinating to see if a less ballyhooed draft results in a smoothing of the standings after a tankerific season that saw a gulf between the haves and have nots. Because there are a lot of teams at the top of the standings who either got better, or at least got no worse, who are nevertheless projected for a 3-7 -point drop like CAR, EDM, DAL, NJD, TOR, VGK, COL, SEA, MIN. And then you have all those teams who just missed out but seemingly improved who have a 5-7 -point bump baked into their number like PIT, DET, OTT, WSH, STL, VAN. Not to mention some big jumps for the teams at the bottom like CHI, SJS, ANA, CBJ, and the understandable projected drop for BOS.

    Is the league really going to smooth out that much or are a bunch of these mid-low teams going to flop again?

    I like the overs for EDM, DAL, NJD, CAR, MIN, as well as some mid-tier teams like CGY and NYI.

    I like the unders for VAN, STL, WSH, CHI, SJS, ANA.
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    Over: Nashville, NJD, NYR, Arizona, Columbus: I love Columbus at 73.5

    Under: Toronto, Chicago, Seattle, San Jose: Definitely Chicago at 72.5
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    Over: Buffalo, Anaheim, Detroit

    Under: Chicago, Dallas, Nashville
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    For me:

    OVER: **DAL 104.5, LA 100.5, FLA 98.5, ARI 74.5, CBJ 73.5
    UNDER: CAR 107.5, TOR 106.5, COL 106.5, WPG 91.5, STL 87.5

    I think Dallas will be top team in NHL this year.
    They just seem to have everything.
    They have great forward depth - especially with Duchene & Steel coming in.
    They have underrated defensive depth - especially with emerging Thomas Harley (see playoff contributions).
    And... Oettinger - for me - is now a top5 NHL goalie. Barring injury - fingers crossed.

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    Keefe has averaged 111pts/82games in his head coaching career, which is a 51-22-9 record. Which would also be the most regular time losses Keefe has had in a single year funny enough.

    It should be interesting how the ripple effect of "Bad for Bedard" tank shakes out, but if we look back at the McDavid tank year, we had 12 teams with over 100pts (104.8pts/team avg), with the bottom 5 teams averaging 62.2pts, with a obvious bottom 5 tanking. The year after that tank yr, we only had 10 teams with over 100pts, but the average was 103.9pts/team. With the bottom 5 teams averaging 73.4pts.

    This past season we again had 12 teams with over 100pts, but the average was 110.2pts/team (thanks to Bostons 135pts). The bottom 5 average was 60.8pts.

    I think we see a much more competitive bottom 5, so I think one of SJS or Anaheim go over 67.5pts. I also think we see 10 teams with over 100pts.

    I think we have Over:
    Dallas (104.5), LA (100.5), Toronto (106.5), Colorado (106.5), Boston (100.5), Edmonton (105.5), Vegas (103.5), NJD (105.5), Florida (98.5), TBL (97.5), Anaheim (67.5)
    I think Unders:
    Montreal (71.5), Philly (75.5), Ottawa (91.5), NYR (101.5)

    It's such a crapshoot though. Leafs can go through a 15 game bad stretch at the beginning of the yr (which they tend to do) and fire Keefe and go through growing pains with a whole new system.
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    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
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    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    For me:

    OVER: **DAL 104.5, LA 100.5, FLA 98.5, ARI 74.5, CBJ 73.5
    UNDER: CAR 107.5, TOR 106.5, COL 106.5, WPG 91.5, STL 87.5

    I think Dallas will be top team in NHL this year.
    They just seem to have everything.
    They have great forward depth - especially with Duchene & Steel coming in.
    They have underrated defensive depth - especially with emerging Thomas Harley (see playoff contributions).
    And... Oettinger - for me - is now a top5 NHL goalie. Barring injury - fingers crossed.
    I also really like Dallas this season. It's a bit unnerving to see how well-rounded they are since I'm really hoping the Oilers can climb the mountain in the next year or two.

    The Stars have elite players in their prime at every position, including at goalie and a Norris caliber defenseman, plus a bumper crop of young guys pushing up, and they just signed a bunch of talented forwards to fill depth roles. The only place they are lacking is a back up goalie in the event something happens with Oettinger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2014olympicgold View Post
    Keefe has averaged 111pts/82games in his head coaching career, which is a 51-22-9 record. Which would also be the most regular time losses Keefe has had in a single year funny enough.

    It's such a crapshoot though. Leafs can go through a 15 game bad stretch at the beginning of the yr (which they tend to do) and fire Keefe and go through growing pains with a whole new system.
    Toronto got worse defensively with their free agent additions and I definitely do not like having Samsonov as a penciled in #1 starter. With the free agency questions looming over their head, I can see an already mentally-fragile Leaf team go south especially with the pressure of playing in Toronto. I think Toronto is going to be fascinating this year to follow.
    10 Team, 60 Player Roster
    G, A, PTS, PPP, PIM, BLKs, Hits, +/-, Shots, W, GAA, SV%, Saves
    C- JHughes, Trocheck, RThomas, Zegras, Norris, Bennett, PLD, Stephenson, Danualt
    RW- Raymond, Stone, TWilson, Toffoli, KJohnson, Nyqvist, Zary
    LW- Keller, Schmaltz, Bunting, Skinner, Barbashev, Duclair
    D- QHughes, McAvoy, Doughty, Heiskanen, LHughes, Mintyukov
    G- Shesterkin, Demko, Andersen, Kahkonen, Levi, Tarasov, Annunen

    Notable Prospects- Nikishin, Kulich, Leonard, Wood, Perreault, Lekkermaki, Ostlund, Othmman, REvans, L-Heureux, Ivanov, Murashov

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daydream Nation View Post
    Toronto got worse defensively with their free agent additions and I definitely do not like having Samsonov as a penciled in #1 starter. With the free agency questions looming over their head, I can see an already mentally-fragile Leaf team go south especially with the pressure of playing in Toronto. I think Toronto is going to be fascinating this year to follow.
    I feel like this has been said for 5yrs now, my mind has gone numb to the Leafs positives and negatives though.
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    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    BUMP of the DAY.

    Props to EB, md26, DaydreamN for taking the under on San Jose!

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    Reverse props for me taking the over on EDM and the under on VAN though.
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    Here are your Hockey Reference Points Predictions as of today:
    Metro:
    NYR - 100.9pts
    NJD - 92.7pts
    CAR - 92.7pts
    PIT - 90.4pts
    NYI - 90.2pts
    PHI - 86.8pts
    CBJ - 85.6pts
    WSH - 85.4pts

    Atlantic:
    BOS - 104.5pts
    DET - 94.3pts
    TBL - 93.7pts
    TOR - 91.9pts
    BUF - 89.8pts
    OTT - 89.3pts
    MTL - 86.4pts

    Central:
    COL - 97.2pts
    DAL - 96.2pts
    ARI - 94.5pts
    WPG - 93.6pts
    STL - 88.8pts
    MIN - 87.4pts
    NSH - 86.5pts
    CHI - 86.2pts

    Pacific:
    VGK - 107.2pts
    VAN - 104.1pts
    LAK - 101.9pts
    ANA - 96.5pts
    SEA - 85.5pts
    CGY - 82.6pts
    EDM - 80.3pts
    SJS - 67.3pts
    12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
    G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
    W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
    2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA

    C: Horvat, Trocheck
    LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
    RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
    D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
    Util: Meier (LW, RW)
    G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pengwin7 View Post
    Some (early) team O/U.
    Who do you guys like:
    https://www.bovada.lv/sports/hockey/...ps/futures-odd

    ANA 67.5
    ARI 74.5
    BOS 100.5
    BUF 92.5
    CGY 93.5
    CAR 107.5
    CHI 72.5
    COL 106.5
    CBJ 73.5
    DAL 104.5
    DET 85.5
    EDM 105.5
    FLA 98.5
    LA 100.5
    MIN 96.5
    MON 71.5
    NAS 87.5
    NJD 105.5
    NYI 91.5
    NYR 101.5
    OTT 91.5
    PHI 75.5
    PIT 96.5
    SJS 67.5
    SEA 93.5
    STL 87.5
    TBL 97.5
    TOR 106.5
    VAN 88.5
    VGK 103.5
    WAS 85.5
    WPG 91.5


    Getting close to the end of the year...

    The Big Misses this Year:
    AMAZINGNESS: Vancouver is going to obliterate their 88.5pts prediction. Winnipeg is well over their 91.5pts. The Rangers are well over their 101.5pts.
    DISAPPOINTING: Calgary is far short of their 93.5pts prediction. Ditto Ottawa's 91.5pts. Seattle not close to 93.5. And the big junkhouse trio of ANA (p67.5pts), CHI (p72.5pts), and SJ (p67.5pts) are all 10-35pts off.
    THE WORST: The Devils were pegged for 105.5pts... and currently are sitting with 79pts. That's a 26pt deficit... the most among expected playoff teams!

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    Oh dear, it's not looking good for my picks!
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