Decisions to be made on younger players

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Hi guys, first time poster. Recently back into fantasy hockey after a few years away.

Took over a team in my previous league (not my original team) which has needed gutting from top to bottom. Have managed to make a few trades and FA pickups. However I now find myself in a situation where I have too many young players on cheap contracts and need to try and ship some out to make room for the upcoming UFAs available in the off-season (this includes McDavid, Draisaitl amongst others). Right now I don't have the roster room to make a play at anyone without having to drop.

Please could you try and rank the following with how you expect them to produce during the next four years (all these players are at $1 through the 26/27 season).

Categories are G, A, +/-, PIM, SOG, STP, Hits, Blocks

We start 3 C, 3 RW, 3 LW, 5 D, 2 SKT

Kirill Marchenko
Jonatan Berggren
Matias Maccelli
Ridly Greig
Jake Neighbours
Eeli Tolvanen
Juuso Parssinen
Kaiden Guhle
Cam York

Other notable players I have include:

Jack Hughes
Nico Hischier
Dylan Larkin
Lucas Raymond
Alexis Lafreniere
Nick Schmaltz
Moritz Seider
Jamie Drysdale
K'Andre Miller

Prospects that will graduate and will need adding to my team are:

Owen Power
Jake Sanderson
Cole Perfetti

I also have picks 1 (Bedard), 2 (probably Fantilli), 7, 14 and 26 in this year's draft.

Any help will be greatly appreciated. Like I say, fairly new back into fantasy hockey. Don't want to get rid of a potential stud on a cheap contract. Thanks.

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Bump.

Any help here would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. 🙂

[Axeman33]

Kirill Marchenko
Ridly Greig
Jake Neighbours
Juuso Parssinen
Matias Maccelli
Jonatan Berggren
Eeli Tolvanen
Cam York
Kaiden Guhle

[Pengwin7]

Categories are G, A, +/-, PIM, SOG, STP, Hits, Blocks
We start 3 C, 3 RW, 3 LW, 5 D, 2 SKT

Kirill Marchenko
Jonatan Berggren
Matias Maccelli
Ridly Greig
Jake Neighbours
Eeli Tolvanen
Juuso Parssinen
Kaiden Guhle
Cam York

Other notable players I have include:

Jack Hughes
Nico reniere
Nick Schmaltz
Moritz Seider
Jamie Drysdale
K'Andre Miller

Prospects that will graduate and will need adding to my team are:

Owen Power
Jake Sanderson
Cole Perfetti

I also have picks 1 (Bedard), 2 (probably Fantilli), 7, 14 and 26 in this year's draft.

In an 11F/5D league, you want to go forward-heavy (your +2 skaters are likely F, most nights).
With Seider, Drysdale, K'Andre, Sanderson, Power... and Cam York... you are set there at D, I like that group.
I think Cam York has emerged as a CLEAR, CLEAR guy to run the PHI PP1 next year.
Marchenko and Maccelli (at $1) are worth keeping... especially since it makes cap space for you to pursue UFAs.
You don't list the prices on your vets - that's hard - because (as you probably know) - sometimes you want to clear those guys out to create budget to go after a super-duper-star during bidding.

I think you are going to have to clear out the bolded guys.
Picks #1, #2, #7 will slide into your graduated prospects.
Not sure what #14 & #26 will land you - but probably more high-end than the bolded players.
And to get those UFAs, you need to drop guys.

I really don't think you'll get much return on any of these guys.
If you have a MON fan in your league - try offering him Guhle.
If you have a DET fan in your league - try offering him Berggren.
If you have a OTT fan in you league - try offering him Greig.
Tolvanen had nice bounce back this year - you can try offering him to whoever owns Beniers or V.Dunn.

Neighbours might actually see some nice minutes on STL next year - but his stats were low this year so I'd just drop him and consider re-drafting.
Parssinen, for me, doesn't have enough upside.
Neither does Berggren.

If you end up straight-dropping these six guys... I wouldn't sweat it.
Your three promoted prospects are studs... and picks 1, 2, 7 will likely be gems too.
And, as you said, you need to make a run at some UFA vets.

Good luck.

[Bubba55]

In an 11F/5D league, you want to go forward-heavy (your +2 skaters are likely F, most nights).
With Seider, Drysdale, K'Andre, Sanderson, Power... and Cam York... you are set there at D, I like that group.
I think Cam York has emerged as a CLEAR, CLEAR guy to run the PHI PP1 next year.
Marchenko and Maccelli (at $1) are worth keeping... especially since it makes cap space for you to pursue UFAs.
You don't list the prices on your vets - that's hard - because (as you probably know) - sometimes you want to clear those guys out to create budget to go after a super-duper-star during bidding.

I think you are going to have to clear out the bolded guys.
Picks #1, #2, #7 will slide into your graduated prospects.
Not sure what #14 & #26 will land you - but probably more high-end than the bolded players.
And to get those UFAs, you need to drop guys.

I really don't think you'll get much return on any of these guys.
If you have a MON fan in your league - try offering him Guhle.
If you have a DET fan in your league - try offering him Berggren.
If you have a OTT fan in you league - try offering him Greig.
Tolvanen had nice bounce back this year - you can try offering him to whoever owns Beniers or V.Dunn.

Neighbours might actually see some nice minutes on STL next year - but his stats were low this year so I'd just drop him and consider re-drafting.
Parssinen, for me, doesn't have enough upside.
Neither does Berggren.

If you end up straight-dropping these six guys... I wouldn't sweat it.
Your three promoted prospects are studs... and picks 1, 2, 7 will likely be gems too.
And, as you said, you need to make a run at some UFA vets.

Good luck.

IMO Pengwin has this nailed. Summarized: "Your three promoted prospects are studs... and picks 1, 2, 7 will likely be gems too.
And, as you said, you need to make a run at some UFA vets. I can't add to this.

[finnys_fanatsy]

In an 11F/5D league, you want to go forward-heavy (your +2 skaters are likely F, most nights).
With Seider, Drysdale, K'Andre, Sanderson, Power... and Cam York... you are set there at D, I like that group.
I think Cam York has emerged as a CLEAR, CLEAR guy to run the PHI PP1 next year.
Marchenko and Maccelli (at $1) are worth keeping... especially since it makes cap space for you to pursue UFAs.
You don't list the prices on your vets - that's hard - because (as you probably know) - sometimes you want to clear those guys out to create budget to go after a super-duper-star during bidding.

I think you are going to have to clear out the bolded guys.
Picks #1, #2, #7 will slide into your graduated prospects.
Not sure what #14 & #26 will land you - but probably more high-end than the bolded players.
And to get those UFAs, you need to drop guys.

I really don't think you'll get much return on any of these guys.
If you have a MON fan in your league - try offering him Guhle.
If you have a DET fan in your league - try offering him Berggren.
If you have a OTT fan in you league - try offering him Greig.
Tolvanen had nice bounce back this year - you can try offering him to whoever owns Beniers or V.Dunn.

Neighbours might actually see some nice minutes on STL next year - but his stats were low this year so I'd just drop him and consider re-drafting.
Parssinen, for me, doesn't have enough upside.
Neither does Berggren.

If you end up straight-dropping these six guys... I wouldn't sweat it.
Your three promoted prospects are studs... and picks 1, 2, 7 will likely be gems too.
And, as you said, you need to make a run at some UFA vets.

Good luck.

quality post here..great advice, although, am somewhat torn on Marchenko myself, but at $1 hes great value though so i cant argue it too much.

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Thanks for the responses guys, I appreciate it.

Anyone else got anything different to add? Holding off updating my trading block until I have more of a grasp on how I want to play this.

Many thanks in advance.

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Just to update this.

I never mentioned before, but this league is part of a 4-sport league with NFL, MLB and NBA. You can trade between sports so any trades involving players from one sport don't necessarily need to involve players coming back from that same sport.

I'm still looking at (and needing to) make moves with my NHL team. I've acquired a couple of players since my last post and shipped a couple out too, but I'm still in the situation where I need to make trades.

My current team (with salaries this time) is as follows, with salaries starting from next season onwards, and with their RFA/UFA status upon contract completion, cap is $290, league cats are in first post, H2H:

C Dylan Larkin 17 17 UFA
C Nico Hischier 42 42 UFA
C Jack Hughes 30 RFA
LW Lucas Raymond 18 24 30 RFA
LW Adrian Kempe 1 1 UFA
LW Ridly Greig 1 1 1 1 RFA
RW Kirby Dach 3 5 7 9 UFA
RW Eeli Tolvanen 1 1 1 1 UFA
RW Cole Perfetti 6 10, 18, 24 30 RFA
D Moritz Seider 8 14 20 24 RFA
D K'Andre Miller 12 15 20 RFA
D Jamie Drysdale 10 18 24 30 RFA
D Owen Power 6 10 18 24 30 RFA
D Jake Sanderson 6 10 18 24 30 RFA
SKT Matty Beniers 10 18 24 30 RFA
SKT Jonatan Beggren 1 1 1 1 RFA

G Stuart Skinner 1 1 1 1 RFA
G Akira Schmid 1 1 1 1 RFA

BN Jake Neighbours 1 1 1 1 RFA
BN Juuso Parssinen 1 1 1 1 RFA
BN Cam York 1 1 1 1 RFA
BN Kaiden Guhle 1 1 1 1 RFA
BN Michael Matheson 1 1 UFA
BN Dylan Strome 1 1 UFA
BN Daniil Tarasov 6 12 15 20 RFA
BN Pheonix Copley 1 UFA

Prospects (max 10): Marco Rossi, Shane Wright, Dylan Holloway, Brennan Othmann, David Jiricek, Pavel Mintyukov, Jesper Wallstedt

Picks in upcoming draft: 1, 2, 4, 14, 26

I am still absolutely full in terms of my roster space, and I don't have room to make all my picks as things stand as I only have 3 spaces in my prospect pool too. As I mentioned previously, players like McDavid and Draisaitl amongst others will be available in the upcoming auction so I need the space. I will need to make 2 for 1 or 3 for 1 moves if I am to receive any NHLer back in a trade.

My current thoughts:

I need a goaltender. I'm thinking of dangling Wallstedt in front of the Kochetkov owner, who has him cheaply, offering him up along with a couple of my young guys along with Copley as a 1 year replacement. This team is rebuilding. I could offer help in other sports to help sway it.

Trade Mintyukov. I have plenty of D, and need the prospect space, but will I regret it?

I'm still not really sure which of my young guys I should be keeping over the others. Any more insight from people more in the know about them than I would be fantastic.

Thanks for any help and sorry for the essay!

[stevegamer]

I'm going to reply and go against the grain a bit.

The guys I'd like to keep in this format, they are high end points guys or gritty guys with decent scoring:

Kirill Marchenko
Ridly Greig
Kaiden Guhle
Cam York

I'm on the fence on these guys, neither seems super high end, but are useful right now, and should produce again next season with more ice time:
Eeli Tolvanen
Juuso Parssinen

The guys I'd aim to deal:
Jonatan Berggren- didn't produce great and you need roster space
Jake Neighbours - didn't produce great and you need roster space
Matias Maccelli - assists only, bad +/-

Your last post says you need a goalie; and that you don't have room for all your minors picks.

I think somebody would be very intrigued by Maccelli + 26 overall + another guy you're likely to drop.

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Thank you for your response.

The first post is slightly outdated now. Maccelli has already been traded. I've traded Marchenko too in a deal that got me Beniers. My current team can be found in post #8.

Berggren is listed in Dobber's top 10 forward prospects for May. Would he not be worth holding on to?