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    I simply love Goalies, can't get enough of them! So how about we have a go and rank the next generation of season destroying heartbreaking Puck Stoppers? I note that Dobbers' top goalie prospects ranking list has not been updated since the fall (as far as I know). I thought it might be interesting and a bit of fun to revisit this and create a current list of Prospect Flakes. Here are the top 10 from the previous list:

    Gustavsson
    Askarov
    Wolf
    Tarasov
    Comrie
    UPL
    Skinner
    Wallstedt
    Dostal
    DiPietro

    So, fast forward well past the half point of this season, what should this list look like now according to the Forum? Who has moved up, who has moved down, who's out and who's into the top ten.
    14 Team Roto; Keep 25; 12 F, 6 D, 2 G; 10 Farm; 5 Bench; 5 IR;

    Salary Cap - 102.5 Mil

    Scoring Cats: G, A, Pts, PIM, Hits, BS, SOG, F Points, D Points; Win+Ties+SO, GAA, SV%

    Keepers

    F: Aho, Larkin, DeBrincat, Vrana, Bennett, Scheifele, Kakko,Tolvanen, McBain,

    D: Heiskanen, Fox, Toews, Lundqvist

    G: Swayman, Andersen, Copley

    Drops

    F: Gaudreau, Terravainen, Puljujarvi, Kravstov, Zary

    D: Brannstrom, Cernak, Alexeyev

    G: Korpisalo, Merzlikins

    FARM: Rossi, Berggren, Holtz, Savoie, Clarke, Tarasov, Wolf

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    i had read a list not long ago..Athletic maybe?

    Wally
    Askarov
    Wolf
    Levi
    Cossa
    Dostal
    Pyotr
    Schmid
    Ersson

    HM: UPL, Tarasov Sogaard and a host of others
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    24 man roster (+3 IR) - Keep 20 - Daily settings
    Start 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 5D, 2G, 1UTIL
    G,A,PTS, +/-, PIM, PPA, PPG, D PTS - W, SV, SV%

    C- Zegras, Suzuki, Carlsson
    RW- Batherson, Michkov, Quinn, Perfetti(C,LW), Foerster, Kakko
    LW- BTkachuk, Stutzle(C), Byfield(C), McTavish(C), Benson
    D- Mintyukov, Sanderson, LHughes, Clarke, Faber
    G- Wolf, Askarov, Wallstedt
    IR- Norris(C)
    IR- Fantilli(C)
    IR-


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    Quote Originally Posted by finnys_fanatsy View Post
    i had read a list not long ago..Athletic maybe?

    Wally
    Askarov
    Wolf
    Levi
    Cossa
    Dostal
    Pyotr
    Schmid
    Ersson

    HM: UPL, Tarasov Sogaard and a host of others
    That list didnt include goalies currently in the league.
    10 Team, Points Only, Cash League

    25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
    Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
    Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt

    Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink

    G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger


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    Quote Originally Posted by Axeman33 View Post
    That list didnt include goalies currently in the league.
    Is true to a point. Didn’t know that was a criteria. Lol

    I’d add Oetter at the top then, Knight at 3(?). Not sure who else be in the next gen category. Demko?
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    24 man roster (+3 IR) - Keep 20 - Daily settings
    Start 3C, 3LW, 3RW, 5D, 2G, 1UTIL
    G,A,PTS, +/-, PIM, PPA, PPG, D PTS - W, SV, SV%

    C- Zegras, Suzuki, Carlsson
    RW- Batherson, Michkov, Quinn, Perfetti(C,LW), Foerster, Kakko
    LW- BTkachuk, Stutzle(C), Byfield(C), McTavish(C), Benson
    D- Mintyukov, Sanderson, LHughes, Clarke, Faber
    G- Wolf, Askarov, Wallstedt
    IR- Norris(C)
    IR- Fantilli(C)
    IR-


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    While this is not super definitive black and white, it seems Dobber uses this to compile the top 50 Fantasy Prospect Goalie list:

    "This is a FANTASY ranking. It was actual talent level, then I would just have Askarov, Wolf and Wallstedt in the top three and be done with it. But in fantasy there are many other factors to consider, such as wait time (important). Most goalies are 25 or even 26 before they put up fantasy-worthy full-season stats. The only goalies to do it at 23 in the last 20 years are Carey Price and Andrei Vasilevskiy. So ‘at best’ you are looking at 23 for the very elite."

    So, I believe the criteria, somewhat simplified is primarily wait time (age, team depth chart etc) in conjunction with talent level. Not sure if this helps or not but it seems to work for Dobber. Perhaps he'll chime in on this?
    14 Team Roto; Keep 25; 12 F, 6 D, 2 G; 10 Farm; 5 Bench; 5 IR;

    Salary Cap - 102.5 Mil

    Scoring Cats: G, A, Pts, PIM, Hits, BS, SOG, F Points, D Points; Win+Ties+SO, GAA, SV%

    Keepers

    F: Aho, Larkin, DeBrincat, Vrana, Bennett, Scheifele, Kakko,Tolvanen, McBain,

    D: Heiskanen, Fox, Toews, Lundqvist

    G: Swayman, Andersen, Copley

    Drops

    F: Gaudreau, Terravainen, Puljujarvi, Kravstov, Zary

    D: Brannstrom, Cernak, Alexeyev

    G: Korpisalo, Merzlikins

    FARM: Rossi, Berggren, Holtz, Savoie, Clarke, Tarasov, Wolf

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