Raymond for me. I've never been a big Boeser fan and you have to like where Detroit is headed.
Points only keeper, team is in a semi-rebuild (this season not too important) and hope to be competitive in 1-2 years. Long term, who would you rather have, Brock Boeser or Lucas Raymond?
Raymond for me. I've never been a big Boeser fan and you have to like where Detroit is headed.
10 Team, Points Only, Cash League
25 Man Roster (no position), top 20 point getters count at end of month
Keep 20/25 at seasons end, Cut 5 to FA for redrafting
Goalie points W=2pt L=-1pt SHO=2pt
Stamkos, Tavares, Eichel, Mercer, JRobertson, RThomas, Kucherov, Nugent-Hopkins, Tuch, KConnor, Necas, Point, Konecny, SJarvis, Cozenz, Morrissey, Bouchard, Josi, Novak, Tolvanen, Peterka, Brink
G- Vasilevskiy, Sorokin, Oettinger
"Cleavage is like the sun. You can look, but dont stare.. Unless you're wearing sunglasses."
Another vote for Raymond.
Raymond may already be the better player. Definitely more valuable in the future.
Raymond by a mile
Yep, another vote for Raymond
14 Team H2H Dynasty League (14 keepers, no farm)
Weekly Starts (3C, 5W, 5D, 1Util, 2G)
G, A, PPP, SOG, BS, +/-, GAA, W+OTL, SV%
C: MacKinnon/Eichel/Kopitar/Pinto/Wright
W: Ovechkin/Toffoli/Necas/Giroux/E.Kane/K.Johnson/Schmaltz/Bjorkstrand
D: Dobson/Trouba/Mintyukov/Gostisbehere/Edvinsson/York
G: Saros/Demko/Askarov
Raaaaaaymond
12 teams. Keep 9 any position.
7 prospects. D scoring 3.75 for goal, 2.75 for assist. Forwards 3.5 for goal, 2.5 for assist. 0.5 for hits and blocks. Goalie scoring -1.5 GA, 0.3 for save, 2 points for win and extra 2 for shutout.
Pre Draft
F: Keller, Zegras, Suzuki, Caufield, Cozens
D: Drysdale, Guhle, Perunovich
G:
IR:
Prospects: W. Johnston, K. Johnson, Guenther, Morrow, Mateychuk
Go with Raymond and do not look back at Boeser.
12 team Card Hockey League. Use stats from last NHL season ex: 2022-23 stats will be used for our 23-24 season cards
Fwds: MacKinnon, Pastrnak, Rantanen, M Tkachuk Scheifele, Marchand, B Nelson, Stephenson, J Toews, R Thomas, Lundell, E Rodrigues, Sissons, Lowry, M Foligno, D Guenther, Mangiapane, Pacioretty, Huberdeau, Wheeler
Dmen: Makar, D Toews, Dobson, Sergachev, S Jones, Graves, Carlo, Gudas, Byram, Girard, Thrun
Goalies: Vanecek, Francouz, Samsonov
Definitely Raymond, here and beyond.
League: 14 team H2H 12 category scoring: G/A/P/PPP/SHP/SOG/BLK~ W/L(Least)/GA(Least)/SV/SHO
Bratt Pack: Team & Record: 43-43-10 (23 player roster with 6 IR positions and 2 NA positions)
C: Scheifele-WPG, Seguin-DAL(RW), Reinhart- FLA(RW), Monahan-MON, Parssinen-NSH
LW: Laine-CLS(RW), Benn-DAL(C), Zucker-PIT, Sheary-WSH(RW), Maccelli-ARZ
RW: Bratt-NJ, Fiala-LA(LW), Zacha-BOS(LW/C), Peterka-BUF(LW), Wilson-WSH IR
D: Hamilton-NJ, Chabot-OTT, Trouba-NYR, Addison-MIN, Ekman-Larsson-VAN, Letang-PIT IR
G: Saros-NSH, Kuemper-WSH, Schmid-NJ, Francouz-COL
Raymond
I like Boeser. For this year. After that, let's put it this way, Raymonds floor is Boeser's ceiling (:
14 Team Roto; Keep 25; 12 F, 6 D, 2 G; 10 Farm; 5 Bench; 5 IR;
Salary Cap - 102.5 Mil
Scoring Cats: G, A, Pts, PIM, Hits, BS, SOG, F Points, D Points; Win+Ties+SO, GAA, SV%
Keepers
F: Aho, Larkin, DeBrincat, Vrana, Bennett, Scheifele, Kakko,Tolvanen, McBain,
D: Heiskanen, Fox, Toews, Lundqvist
G: Swayman, Andersen, Copley
Drops
F: Gaudreau, Terravainen, Puljujarvi, Kravstov, Zary
D: Brannstrom, Cernak, Alexeyev
G: Korpisalo, Merzlikins
FARM: Rossi, Berggren, Holtz, Savoie, Clarke, Tarasov, Wolf
Raymond has tons of upside still and we already know who boeser is and it is not all that good. To me it’s easily Raymond
14 Teams H2H Dynasty, 28 roster spots (8 bench), 15 minors under 100
Weekly Matchups - Daily Lineups
Skaters: G/A/Pt/PIM/SoG/STP/H+B/ToI/Corsi
Goalies: W/GAA/SVs/SV%/SHO
C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones
I think I go Raymond but this is the kind of thing im talking about lately. I had no idea boesers perceived value has taken THAT much of a hit. I think Raymond's floor being boesers ceiling is hogwash myself- respectfully- and I think all he need is one 35 goal 60 plus point season and everyone will go back to thinking of uim as a ppg sniper or better.
Yes all things being equal you take Raymond but ill tell you what I'm asking about boeser in my leagues. I posted a boeser for Matthew's offer on this board ages ago and Matthew's won but not only was it close- everyone who commented thought it was a fair discussion. I'm not saying he's as good as Matthew's a lot has changed for Matthew's specifically since then but this is a very young player and as poolies were just frustrated he hasn't found his niche. We've invested draft capital- trade caoital- heartache- money- and hes disappointed us. Of course that will change OUR view of him. Does it change his actual upside though??
NOT ONE TINY IOTA!!!
I don't own boeaer im not being a fanboy but this is a great example of where you should zig where the boards are zagging. Let's be honest that whole team is a mess. They're forcing the kuzme ko experiment- Miller is being leaned on like he's being paid which is waaaay too heavily. As a holtz owner I hope this doesn't happen but how much do we like boeser in NJ?? The gossip du hour is Calgary wants him- if he finds himself on the topne with a natural setup man in huberdeau??
Thank you for the insight- I've got a boeser owner to talk to...