Reply With QuoteThat's pretty bad. I thought Hughes being ranked as only the 7th-best dman prospect for points-only behind guys like Guhle and Perunovich was pretty egregious but Vanacek at #25 is worse.
Vitek Vanecek’s Dobber ranking
10-2-0, GAA 2.05, Sv% 0.923.
NOT being sheltered against better teams (e.g., Swayman)
Plays on first-place team, whether or not you believe in NJD
And yet ranks #25 in keeper rankings, below Gibson, Cal Petersen, and Merzlikins?
What does he need to do?
I hope my fantasy leagues are all in on this, and accept my trade offers for him.
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12-team, H2H. Keep 12, but drop 2 of top four skaters, and also 2 of next six, then five more (from end-of-year rankings). One GK max.
Stutzle, Sergachev
Keller, Doughty, Verhaeghe, ErikssonEk
E.Lindholm, Barzal, J.Gaudreau, Huberdeau, S. Wright
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Re: Vitek Vanecek’s Dobber ranking
That's pretty bad. I thought Hughes being ranked as only the 7th-best dman prospect for points-only behind guys like Guhle and Perunovich was pretty egregious but Vanacek at #25 is worse.
10 Team, 60 Player Roster
G, A, PTS, PPP, PIM, BLKs, Hits, +/-, Shots, W, GAA, SV%, Saves
C- JHughes, Trocheck, RThomas, Zegras, Norris, Bennett, PLD, Stephenson, Danualt
RW- Raymond, Stone, TWilson, Toffoli, KJohnson, Nyqvist, Zary
LW- Keller, Schmaltz, Bunting, Skinner, Barbashev, Duclair
D- QHughes, McAvoy, Doughty, Heiskanen, LHughes, Mintyukov
G- Shesterkin, Demko, Andersen, Kahkonen, Levi, Tarasov, Annunen
Notable Prospects- Nikishin, Kulich, Leonard, Wood, Perreault, Lekkermaki, Ostlund, Othmman, REvans, L-Heureux, Ivanov, Murashov
Re: Vitek Vanecek’s Dobber ranking
I'm not sure that I have ever found value in those rankings, to be honest. Yes, Vanecek should be higher but keep in mind that the sample size is much too small still. Vanecek has had one great month; he was pretty mediocre in October. I am not yet sold on him.
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Re: Vitek Vanecek’s Dobber ranking
I noticed that as well and had a good laugh about it this morning.
The Dobber rankings and depth-chart/lineup tools have always been a nice, conservative guideline to browse over from time to time but tend to lag a couple of weeks (sometimes months) behind reality.
The keeper rankings are built quite specifically to limited scoring cat leagues and have a heavy dose of Dobber favoritisms built into them (and, on the flip side, punish players that the ranker isn't a personal fan of).
If your league-mates use the rankings as their holy grail you can take real advantage of the built in lag and biases.
I appreciate the work put into them but always take them with a grain of salt.
The League in London (20 Team Multi-Cat H2H $100 Dynasty League) - Season 11
... In memory of "The Net Detective"
C Pinto kDach Hayton Roy / Lowry Bjugstad Blueger Carrick
LW Lehkonen Knies kJohnson Greenway / Laferriere Reichel Luostarinen Kartye Grebyonkin Buchelnikov
RW Quinn Joseph Roslovic Chinakhov / Kakko Glass Brink O'Connor Holmberg Berggren Tuomaala
D Werenski Hronek Power Guhle McCabe Roy / Gudas Raddysh Pachal Evans Cormier
G Swayman / Hill Mrazek Ivanov Kokko
Re: Vitek Vanecek’s Dobber ranking
they copy rankings from last time they came out and they never adjust much....couple spots each time at best. Its not right but it is what it is...he does have one of smallest work loads in the game based on shots per game...but still numbers are there ...respect is not.
14 Teams H2H Dynasty, 28 roster spots (8 bench), 15 minors under 100
Weekly Matchups - Daily Lineups
Skaters: G/A/Pt/PIM/SoG/STP/H+B/ToI/Corsi
Goalies: W/GAA/SVs/SV%/SHO
C: Eichel, Kadri, Mcdavid, Sodeberg, Schenn
LW: Ehlers, Landeskog, Meier, Debrusk, Foegele, Lee
RW: Pastrnak, Marner, Palmieri, Terry, D. Brown, Bailey, Granlund
D: Krug, Josi, Ekholm, Faulk, Muzzin, Karlsson, Cernak,
G: Hellebuyck, Biship, M Jones
Re: Vitek Vanecek’s Dobber ranking
I agree 100%. Something else to realize is that Dobber heavily weights closeness to the NHL in his rankings. I think that is an interesting philosophical approach. A prospect in the AHL or in a NHL timeshare that is close to being a regular has succeeded longer into his development compared to the recently drafted, 18-year old pick that is a couple years from realistically playing in the NHL. Personally, I want the upside over the safer, closer prospect but when you factor in late bloomers and the number of prospects that ultimately bust, Dobber's approach might be better. It would be interesting to do a long study on this approach.Originally Posted by VintageVibe
10 Team, 60 Player Roster
G, A, PTS, PPP, PIM, BLKs, Hits, +/-, Shots, W, GAA, SV%, Saves
C- JHughes, Trocheck, RThomas, Zegras, Norris, Bennett, PLD, Stephenson, Danualt
RW- Raymond, Stone, TWilson, Toffoli, KJohnson, Nyqvist, Zary
LW- Keller, Schmaltz, Bunting, Skinner, Barbashev, Duclair
D- QHughes, McAvoy, Doughty, Heiskanen, LHughes, Mintyukov
G- Shesterkin, Demko, Andersen, Kahkonen, Levi, Tarasov, Annunen
Notable Prospects- Nikishin, Kulich, Leonard, Wood, Perreault, Lekkermaki, Ostlund, Othmman, REvans, L-Heureux, Ivanov, Murashov
Re: Vitek Vanecek’s Dobber ranking
I traded Vanecek two weeks ago for Saros in a one year league.
Hope Dobber is correct…lol
1) 16 teams full keeper H2H. Start 9F, 4D, 1G, 2 Championships
pts: (D : 7 pts G /5 pts A), (F : 5pts G /3 pts A), (G : 10 pts W / 5 pts SO), (D/F : 1 pt +/-, 0.5 pts PIM, 0.1 FOW, 0.2 Hits, 0.3 pts SOG, PP and SH).
Forward : Aho, Svechnikov, PLDubois, Giroux, Couture, Wheeler, Cozens, Karlsson, Vrana, Anderson,Greenway,
Defenses : Dahlin, Fox, Doughty, Toews, , Slavin, Miller
Goalies : Oettinger, Vanecek, Bobrovsky
Prospects : Dostal, Schmid, Chinakhov, Bordeleau, Ostlund, Brindley, Gulyayev
Re: Vitek Vanecek’s Dobber ranking
This. The rankings move slowly unlike the fickle flavor of the month yo-yo that is many fantasy GM’s MO. Keeper leagues are the long game. Also recall that the rankings are quite clear that the important aspect of the rankings are the tiers, not who is 25 vs 23. It takes awhile for true goalie value (both up and down) to be ranked. I think this year Vanecek is going to win some guys their league. So will Samsonov. The keeper goalie rankings will adjust, but not after a month. That would be nonsense.
12 team Yahoo Roto keeper (keep 3)
9 F, 6 D; roster 3 G max
G,A,PPP,SOG,BLKS,HITS - W,SO,SV%,Saves
F: B Tkachuk, Stutzle, Eriksson Ek, Necas, Konecny, Cooley, Boldy, Lehkonen, Tippett
D: Dahlin, Seider, Matheson, Durzi, Addison, Mintyukov
G: Hill, Husso
IR:
Bench: L Hughes, Merzlikins, Terry, Tuch
Re: Vitek Vanecek’s Dobber ranking
Jack Campbell last yr was in Vezina talks at this time.
12 Team, H2H, Keep 6 (in Bold)
G, A, Pts, PPP, FW, SOG, Hits, Blocks
W, Saves, S%, GAA, Game Started
2C, 2LW, 2RW, 4D, 1Util, 2G, 5BN, 2IR, 1IR+, 1NA
C: Horvat, Trocheck
LW: J. Robertson, Byfield (C), Guenther
RW: Pavelski (C), Giroux (C), Svechnikov (LW)
D: Fox, Makar, Bouchard, Morrissey, Gudas
Util: Meier (LW, RW)
G: Oettinger, Georgiev, Samsonov, Woll
Re: Vitek Vanecek’s Dobber ranking
Because even Akira Schmidt is 4 and 0. Its not Vitek, its the team.
Good points above, also consider the Dobber ranking as one source, not the only answer.
Re: Vitek Vanecek’s Dobber ranking
I grabbed him off waivers in both my leagues but the sample size is still small. Don't imagine he loses he starting gig when blackwood get's back and Schmidt has been great too. Ride the hot hand. I drafted Georgiev as well and most here on dobber thought francouz was the better own. Goalies are a bit voodoo though.
10 Owner Keepers. Keep 8
Positions----C:3 LW:3 RW:3 D:6 G:2
Skaters: Assists/Blocks/FOW/Goals/Hits/SOG/STP
*Defense premium 1.5/1 Goalies: GA/SV/W
Kootenay League
C: Draisaitl(c,l), Zibanejad, Beniers, Nelson
RW:Meier(l,r), Kyrou, Tippett, D.Stome(c,r), Stone
LW: Tkachuk(l,r), Panarin, McCann(c,l), Marchessault(l,r),
D: Josi, McAvoy, Morrissey, Montour, Toews, Hronek, Severson, Orlov
G: Gustavsson, Kuemper, Gibson
Re: Vitek Vanecek’s Dobber ranking
not sure i follow. Was it not Brodeur but the team as well?
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