World Cup

[LawMan]

Honest question, as a hockey fan: Why does OT continue when a goal is scored?
I have been told this is "the way soccer is" but I just do not understand. The game is tied, so you keep playing, and then a goal is scored.... so you keep playing??
The rules are decided in advance so it is "fair" to both sides to play out the entire OT period but again it doesn't make sense to me... When I was 7 playing any playground game everyone understood the principle of "Next Goal Wins".

I admit I do not understand the nuisances of soccer but if you told me the knockout game went into overtime and a team scored I would assume that meant game over.

[Belexus75]

Croatia is such an awful team to watch. Just absolute garbage the way they keep going through.

Good for their goalie, he's really solid. But this is quite ridiculous to be honest. Brazil is the much better team, but they just couldn't penetrate.

This is a big win for whoever wins the argentina-netherlands match, to avoid brazil.

Brazil is better offensive team but having good, organized D takes more skill then creating offence if you have world class players. They can create on their own...defending is definitely team oriented skill with no exceptions.....Croatia is not that boring as a whole, they needed to play boring soccer today to have a chance and mission accomplished. When they needed to they got an amazing goal...

if you looking for exciting, well played soccer watch top leagues or champions league not world cup...world cup is often won by boring team...or teams that play boring style at the time...go back and watch France games from 2018...

[Stifler]

Honest question, as a hockey fan: Why does OT continue when a goal is scored?
I have been told this is "the way soccer is" but I just do not understand. The game is tied, so you keep playing, and then a goal is scored.... so you keep playing??
The rules are decided in advance so it is "fair" to both sides to play out the entire OT period but again it doesn't make sense to me... When I was 7 playing any playground game everyone understood the principle of "Next Goal Wins".

I admit I do not understand the nuisances of soccer but if you told me the knockout game went into overtime and a team scored I would assume that meant game over.

It used to be golden goal, but the rule changed a few years back to silver goal. So when it goes to OT it gets played full minutes, and then if needed penalty kicks. I'm not sure why it was switched back then. I think it probably has something to do with teams not taking chances and rather go to penalty kicks. Whereas now they take a chance to score, and then the game does open up a little bit. But the exact science, I don't know.

[Feenom]

They used to have the “golden goal” but it actually produced more PKs than expected, both teams just (usually) kept it a midfield for time to run out. Both happy to have luck determining their fates. That changed back to 30 minutes and unlimited goals. Soccer/Futebol is primarily defensive so that’s why they brought in the golden goal. But unfortunately it didn’t really work. But I still liked it and they should bring it back.

Or shrink the number of players (like hockey) to increase chances. Having a golden goal deciding the WC is way better than going to PKs.

[Belexus75]

They used to have the “golden goal” but it actually produced more PKs than expected, both teams just (usually) kept it a midfield for time to run out. Both happy to have luck determining their fates. That changed back to 30 minutes and unlimited goals. Soccer/Futebol is primarily defensive so that’s why they brought in the golden goal. But unfortunately it didn’t really work. But I still liked it and they should bring it back.

Or shrink the number of players (like hockey) to increase chances. Having a golden goal deciding the WC is way better than going to PKs.

have you played soccer? thats pretty bad idea...you would kill these guys.....i mean one or 2 maybe but then it wont make much difference...if you tried to go to 5 on 5 or something around that it would be disaster, soccer against all believes is very demanding physically (cardio) and they dont take shifts...

[Feenom]

I have and coached so trust me I know but I just hate the idea of teams winning and losing in PKs. Either than attrition I don’t see anything else feasible to improve the scoring chances. Of course it’s a killer on the cardio but thinking of 9v9 or each team losing 2 so 8v8 but that will never happen. Just my useless thoughts is all. I like the team that has basically dominated the game to win but as you (belexus) have said, there is a nuance to playing great D too.

[Feenom]

Not a penalty. Acuna is a torrid diver and ref can’t be giving that call that far out. Doesn’t really matter though because it seems as tho the Dutch think they’re playing a friendly. Horrible and flat game by the Dutch.

[Feenom]

Wow. What a free ki… um pass.

[Stifler]

What the **** did I just watch lol.

This is what I observed:

An incredible second half of the match
An incredible incompetent referee (17 yellows what the hell)
That penalty for Argentina was bogus
Argentina deserved 2 red cards (Messi by that clear hand ball, and Paredes on that nasty tackle on Ake and subsequently hammering the ball in the dugout)
Incredible fight by the Dutch to tie the game
Like Feenom says, what a free kick/pass
Constant falling/crying by Argentina players where the ref would call for that was a joke.

The Dutch deserved this one in my opinion, but the referee needed/wanted Messi to go through.

It was most definitely not boring to watch though.

[Stifler]

Messi in the eyes of the referee

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[ross10019]

What the **** did I just watch lol.

This is what I observed:

An incredible second half of the match
An incredible incompetent referee (17 yellows what the hell)
That penalty for Argentina was bogus
Argentina deserved 2 red cards (Messi by that clear hand ball, and Paredes on that nasty tackle on Ake and subsequently hammering the ball in the dugout)
Incredible fight by the Dutch to tie the game
Like Feenom says, what a free kick/pass
Constant falling/crying by Argentina players where the ref would call for that was a joke.

The Dutch deserved this one in my opinion, but the referee needed/wanted Messi to go through.

It was most definitely not boring to watch though.

I take it you’re not a Messi fan, lol

I agree that a-hole who fired the ball into the bench should have been immediately red-carded. I think the rest of it you’re making a bit much, and not giving the Argentines enough credit. The Messi pass on the opening goal? Sublime. His two PKs? Awesome. And Argentina were clearly the better team in the last 15 when inexplicably they Dutch sat back.

[Stifler]

I take it you’re not a Messi fan, lol

I agree that a-hole who fired the ball into the bench should have been immediately red-carded. I think the rest of it you’re making a bit much, and not giving the Argentines enough credit. The Messi pass on the opening goal? Sublime. His two PKs? Awesome. And Argentina were clearly the better team in the last 15 when inexplicably they Dutch sat back.

I normally like Messi but this was clearly ridiculous.

His pass was awesome definitely
His first penalty should have been a free kick outside the box I believe, but I cant find any form of replay (Wheres the var technology to prove me wrong here)
His second penalty shpuld have never happened as he shpuld have been sent off with a red card but he never received a yellow for that ridicukous hand ball he made.

So no definitely not the goat messi in this game. Very dirty antics, and frankly he didnt deserve tp advance on my opinion.

[everfeb]

anyone looking at Canada a little differently after how well Belgium, Croatia and Morocco have done, are doing?

[Stifler]

anyone looking at Canada a little differently after how well Belgium, Croatia and Morocco have done, are doing?

Not really no

[Feenom]

At the very least Argentina should have played that extra time with a man down. That ref had a very bad game. How Messi never got a yellow for that intentional hand ball is a shame. Argentina was lucky to get through and I hope Croatia sends them home. A lot of dirty stuff going on there as Stifler said.