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    Hearing #Leafs have agreed to terms with G Ilya Samsonov on a 1-year, $1.8 million deal.

    Toronto has their guy to play alongside Matt Murray in tandem next season.

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    Solid deal.

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    He's got a real shot to take that job and run with it.
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    I like this as an insurance against Murray’s injuries. But still would have preferred Campbell over Murray for another $250k more.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feenom View Post
    I like this as an insurance against Murray’s injuries. But still would have preferred Campbell over Murray for another $250k more.
    It was never the $$ for Campbell and Dubas. it was the term. Tor did not want to commit to more than 3 years in yet. Campbell wanted the 5.
    if Campbell would have taken 3 years, he'd be getting 5 x 3 in Toronto
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    It was never the $$ for Campbell and Dubas. it was the term. Tor did not want to commit to more than 3 years in yet. Campbell wanted the 5.
    if Campbell would have taken 3 years, he'd be getting 5 x 3 in Toronto
    I get it but realistically it’s a 1 year term for Dubas. He doesn’t make it out of round 1 in the playoffs the term for the goalie won’t matter. I just can’t wrap my head around why the Leafs wouldn’t offer Soup 5 years. They know him, he’s a team first guy plus he’s loved by the players. I dunno but we will see.
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    good value all things considered. Lots of 1A/1B splits is going to be frustrating at drafts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feenom View Post
    I get it but realistically it’s a 1 year term for Dubas. He doesn’t make it out of round 1 in the playoffs the term for the goalie won’t matter. I just can’t wrap my head around why the Leafs wouldn’t offer Soup 5 years. They know him, he’s a team first guy plus he’s loved by the players. I dunno but we will see.
    Dubas is not making decisions based on his personal contract. Lose your job for that.

    Nylander, Tavares, Matthews, Marner all need contracts within the next three years. So will Liljigren & soon to be signed Sandin. Brodie, Muzzin will be done or finishing their deals.
    Where the cap will be in 2-3 years is unpredictable as well.

    There's A LOT more going on than just 3 vs. 5 years for Campbell.

    Dubas has yet to commit to a goalie over three years. it was Lou that signed Freddy.

    All things considered - Murray - Samsonov is an average tandem with upside to be really good.
    I suspect the Leafs will be a better defensive team with better GAA/Svpct then last year. - More to do with style of play adjustments than personnel.
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    Last year Soup + Mrazek was $1M less than this years combo of Murray + Samsonov. Did they sorry… he learn from his mistakes? Imagine the pressure that’s on Dubas right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lucafen4 View Post
    Dubas is not making decisions based on his personal contract. Lose your job for that.

    Nylander, Tavares, Matthews, Marner all need contracts within the next three years. So will Liljigren & soon to be signed Sandin. Brodie, Muzzin will be done or finishing their deals.
    Where the cap will be in 2-3 years is unpredictable as well.

    There's A LOT more going on than just 3 vs. 5 years for Campbell.

    Dubas has yet to commit to a goalie over three years. it was Lou that signed Freddy.

    All things considered - Murray - Samsonov is an average tandem with upside to be really good.
    I suspect the Leafs will be a better defensive team with better GAA/Svpct then last year. - More to do with style of play adjustments than personnel.
    I know, I’m just sour on losing Campbell. I do think that the Leafs are a better defensive system for Murray but don’t have too much faith in Murray. I would not be surprised if Samsonov takes over.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feenom View Post
    I know, I’m just sour on losing Campbell. I do think that the Leafs are a better defensive system for Murray but don’t have too much faith in Murray. I would not be surprised if Samsonov takes over.
    Neither will I. What will complicate things is if he does... and Leafs extend him, then they'll be in for closer to 9-10m in net for 2023/24 season. I think at best we hope for similar to Boston last year Swayman - Ullmark.
    I'm expecting a change to their defensive system this year. Similar to TB after they were swept by Columbus. They tightened shit up hard after that.
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    Can't wait for them to have to trade Murray with a sweetener next summer to make room for Samsonov's extension.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmorrow View Post
    Can't wait for them to have to trade Murray with a sweetener next summer to make room for Samsonov's extension.
    It won’t be that big of a deal if they can make it out of the first round. IF they don’t then somebody else will have to make those moves.
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    Love this deal. Feel bad for all the backlash I gave now haha.

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    One of the shrewdest and best signings this off season. Samsonov is going to be the starter by the 3rd week of the season.
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