You're thinking about it the wrong way. How much more of those things would occur if they WEREN'T illegal???? OF COURSE people still break the law and drive drunk, but if drunk driving was legal, WAYYYYYYYYYYYY more people would do it and drink driving deaths would be through the goddamn roof! Tightening gun restrictions wont eliminate gun deaths, but it will sure as hell reduce them.
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This logic is baffling to me. OF COURSE bad guys would still be able to get guns. But if you ban them altogether, it won't be as easy as walking into Walmart to do it. You say don't ban guns because the bad guys will still get them. Apply this same gorilla logic to every law. Why ban murder? Bad people still kill. Why ban rape? Bad people still rape. Don't you see how absurd that logic is?
You ban things that people shouldn't be doing to protect the masses. People will still do it, but you have penalties and incentive to NOT do those things. That is what makes civilized society safer. To quote you; how does this not make sense to some people?
Rylant
I think you are adding additional content to my point which if I recall from University 1 Logic alters the goal posts per se.
Individual says - If you ban guns bad people will still get them makes no sense.
So all I am trying to do is explain that the banning guns will not eliminate the possibility to obtain guns.
I said that stricter gun laws will will make it harder to obtain guns... but not impossible
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Right. That's the point. You aren't going to eliminate gun deaths altogether, but lets not make it easy for them. Yes, absolutely. Ban all guns. I know it sucks for the law abiding gun owner, but it makes people safer. Jim Jeffries said it best when he said, ya, the bad apples screw it up for the rest of us. I take drugs like a champion, but Karen here drowned her 2 children while high and so now I can't do cocaine anymore. That's the way it works!
Could somebody please explain how lawn darts and Kinder Surprise Eggs are deemed too dangerous and therefore illegal in the States, but just about anybody can buy an AR-15?
Rylant
Interesting for sure.
Because government permits are difficult to obtain, there is a thriving market in smuggled handguns from the United States.Source is some article written by David Kopel who I have never heard of.The Mexican Constitution guarantees the right of Mexicans to possess arms. Even so, gun control laws in Mexico are very strict, and police discretion in enforcement makes possession of firearms of greater than .22 very difficult
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Republicans on Abortion:
Nothing is more important than the life of a child and therefore we shall make all abortion illegal so people can no longer get abortions.
Republicans on Gun Control:
It's not a a gun problem it's a mental health problem and laws don't stop people from getting guns anyways.
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LMAO no.
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Ban all guns, they're killing our children!
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My body my choice & I choose to kill my child!