General Warning: User: notch4077

[Belexus75]

Everyone, read the bolded part carefully and understand what was just said.

Also, keep this thread alive and active until I have time to formulate perfection. I will try to be done Friday night.

perfection eh? there is nothing perfect about it...im sure you both are right on some part and both are wrong on others.....

[Belexus75]

Seriously though, I think it's clear that there is bad blood between notch and you guys, and likely for extremely good reason. At this point though, there either needs to be direct evidence of cheating, or there's not much more that can be said. You'll just be poking the bear and notch it likely to go just go off on some sort of absolutely insane rant that will waste everyone's time.

The guy is a known entity around these parts, and most of us know what he's like in terms of his personal beliefs and behaviour. You're not really bringing anything new to light with that. The claims you make about cheating are something, that if true, need to be backed up with something though.

this....without proving the cheating you actually making your self look worst with each post...again, personal attacks have no room on these boards...

[pdsdil104]

This is why if you have a league in which trades can be reviewed that it be done via a trade committee or a neutral party who's not in the league, rather than one league member alone.

Seriously though, I think it's clear that there is bad blood between notch and you guys, and likely for extremely good reason. At this point though, there either needs to be direct evidence of cheating, or there's not much more that can be said. You'll just be poking the bear and notch it likely to go just go off on some sort of absolutely insane rant that will waste everyone's time.

The guy is a known entity around these parts, and most of us know what he's like in terms of his personal beliefs and behaviour. You're not really bringing anything new to light with that. The claims you make about cheating are something, that if true, need to be backed up with something though.

This was a warning for others not to get scammed. I have given examples what he did. It sounds like alot you already know what he's like. So if an admin wants to shut comments down then go ahead.

I consider doing things thst benefit you as cheating. Example shutting down trades and only approving his (and one other involving him and a new manager). The rules say we are to have two commishes he changed the rule and removed the co commish. The rules also said that a commish can't approve his or her own trade (hence the co commish) and he broke thst rule. The rules said no vetos and he vetoed trades after they were brought back. The list goes on and on and on.

[doulos]

This was a warning for others not to get scammed. I have given examples what he did. It sounds like alot you already know what he's like. So if an admin wants to shut comments down then go ahead.

I consider doing things thst benefit you as cheating. Example shutting down trades and only approving his (and one other involving him and a new manager). The rules say we are to have two commishes he changed the rule and removed the co commish. The rules also said that a commish can't approve his or her own trade (hence the co commish) and he broke thst rule. The rules said no vetos and he vetoed trades after they were brought back. The list goes on and on and on.

You saying that something happened, even if I may want to believe it's true, is not evidence unfortunately. Probably best to lock this thread if there is nothing more coming, you're right.

[Belexus75]

You saying that something happened, if I may want to believe it's true, is not evidence unfortunately. Probably best to lock this thread if there is nothing more coming, you're right.

agree...lock the thread...bunch of empty accusations....

[pdsdil104]

This is why if you have a league in which trades can be reviewed that it be done via a trade committee or a neutral party who's not in the league, rather than one league member alone.

You saying that something happened, even if I may want to believe it's true, is not evidence unfortunately. Probably best to lock this thread if there is nothing more coming, you're right.

And fair enough. I have no idea how to contact an admin but yeah.

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This is why if you have a league in which trades can be reviewed that it be done via a trade committee or a neutral party who's not in the league, rather than one league member alone.

Do we really need MORE evidence of this scumbag notch being a dirtbag?

There's plenty of examples in the past on these forums.

I didn't realize this. We just wanted to warn ppl

[doulos]

Do we really need MORE evidence of this scumbag notch being a dirtbag?

There's plenty of examples in the past on these forums.

Different types of claims though. Whether he has the personality of rotten fruit, and whether he actually cheated, are two very different things. The first is extremely well established over years here in the forums, and could very well be a reason why someone might not want to join a league with him. The second is a much more serious claim that requires a different sort of evidence, and that evidence has not been given.

[pdsdil104]

This is why if you have a league in which trades can be reviewed that it be done via a trade committee or a neutral party who's not in the league, rather than one league member alone.

Different types of claims though. Whether he has the personality of rotten fruit, and whether he actually cheated, are two very different things. The first is extremely well established over years here in the forums, and could very well be a reason why someone might not want to join a league with him. The second is a much more serious claim that requires a different sort of evidence, and that evidence has not been given.

I consider breaking the rules to suit your needs cheating.

[doulos]

I consider breaking the rules to suit your needs cheating.

You're really not getting it are you?

I also consider breaking the rules to suit your needs cheating. What you have failed to prove is EVIDENCE that he has done this.

[pdsdil104]

No I get it but I can't post pics. I understand what you are saying.

I've said my piece. All is good.

[Stifler]

Please leave this open, I want to see Notch's defense.

To the OP, you sound like a bit of a dummy. Honestly, you making claims without any sort of proof that Notch is cheating.

And for that reason alone, you should play fantasy sports with your buddies, and not strangers on the internet...

[forumname]

Somebody teach this guy (and me) how to post pictures

[Belexus75]

Y don’t need pictures… you can copy paste text showing evidence… many was to do this… unless there is no evidence just personality clash…

[forumname]

Y don’t need pictures… you can copy paste text showing evidence… many was to do this… unless there is no evidence just personality clash…

Yes but that is a lot easier for most people to edit/fake than a photo is.

[butch]

I thought we were going to see evidence like back-dated roster moves via commish tools at fantrax that favored his team which were discovered by one of the league members .

I think whatever private conversations you had with eachother via fantrax chatbox or text should remain private .