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    Would you trade Tony DeAngelo for Bo Horvat straight up in a league with hits, blks, faceoff wins or should there be a pick upgrade thrown in?

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    No I would not.
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    F: B Tkachuk, Stutzle, Eriksson Ek, Necas, Konecny, Cooley, Boldy, Lehkonen, Tippett
    D: Dahlin, Seider, Matheson, Durzi, Addison, Mintyukov
    G: Hill, Husso

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    No way

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    You are trading away your best D Man for way way too little in return. Pass for me.
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    Salary Cap - 102.5 Mil

    Scoring Cats: G, A, Pts, PIM, Hits, BS, SOG, F Points, D Points; Win+Ties+SO, GAA, SV%

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    D: Heiskanen, Fox, Toews, Lundqvist

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubba55 View Post
    You are trading away your best D Man for way way too little in return. Pass for me.

    Seider is a better Dman with these categories. Way better. DeAngelo is a soft Dman who doesn't hit or block anywhere near as much as he should. Seider scores a similar amount of PPP, and rolls over DeAngelo 3 times or more for hits and blocks. In a format like this, that's like scoring twice as much.

    But he is still a PPG Dman so he is better than Horvat. Horvat is a near 0.5ppg player who wins a lot of faceoffs.
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    Seider has played 52 games in the NHL.
    12 team Yahoo Roto keeper (keep 3)
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    G,A,PPP,SOG,BLKS,HITS - W,SO,SV%,Saves

    F: B Tkachuk, Stutzle, Eriksson Ek, Necas, Konecny, Cooley, Boldy, Lehkonen, Tippett
    D: Dahlin, Seider, Matheson, Durzi, Addison, Mintyukov
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    Default Re: DeAngelo for Bo Horvat

    Quote Originally Posted by J0e Th0rnton View Post
    Seider is a better Dman with these categories. Way better. DeAngelo is a soft Dman who doesn't hit or block anywhere near as much as he should. Seider scores a similar amount of PPP, and rolls over DeAngelo 3 times or more for hits and blocks. In a format like this, that's like scoring twice as much.

    But he is still a PPG Dman so he is better than Horvat. Horvat is a near 0.5ppg player who wins a lot of faceoffs.
    Agree with all of this - hence why I asked the question to begin. Horvat is actually higher ranked in our settings due to the fact he's such a beast at the dot - there he is truly elite, hits more, and blks almost as much as TDA. Bo also has 12 ppp so he's not totally useless there either. TDA is a weak d-man in his peripheral stat categories so to win hits/blks regularly with him you almost have to carry a 7th D.
    League: H2H - Keep 15
    Managers: 12
    Rosters: 25 (4C, 4LW, 4RW, 6D, 2G, 5BN)

    Scoring Categories: G, A, P, +/-, PPG, PPA, SHP, GWG, SOG, FW, BLK, HIT, W, L, GAA, SV, SV%, SO

    Projected Keepers in Bold (Rebuild)
    C: Bedard, Cozens, Zegras, Lundell, B. Hayton, A. Cirelli, JG Pageau
    LW: Svechnikov, Raymond, Byfield, Laine, D. Voronkov, A. Henrique
    RW: Caufield, Jarvis, Perfetti, Marchenko, J. Quinn, K. Kakko
    D: Seider, Bouchard, L. Hughes, Sanderson, Korchinski, Romanov
    G: Demko, Kochetkov, Thompson, Askarov

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    Default Re: DeAngelo for Bo Horvat

    Horvat is a nice guy. But no.

    McDavid/Necas/ Kucherov/Bjorkstrand/Rust/Nugent Hopkins/Cirelli/Zegras/- Letang/Morrissey/Dahlin - Swayman/Saros/Skinner

    Prospects include:
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    Don't worry I'm not going to say anything more than I have to. If that.

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    Default Re: DeAngelo for Bo Horvat

    Quote Originally Posted by tweetdrivr View Post
    Seider has played 52 games in the NHL.
    This is why I consider DeAngelo to be the better own. 52 games. Others may already be sold on Seider, I, at this point, am not. I'll take the D Man with PPG upside and find my hits and blocks elsewhere.
    14 Team Roto; Keep 25; 12 F, 6 D, 2 G; 10 Farm; 5 Bench; 5 IR;

    Salary Cap - 102.5 Mil

    Scoring Cats: G, A, Pts, PIM, Hits, BS, SOG, F Points, D Points; Win+Ties+SO, GAA, SV%

    Keepers

    F: Aho, Larkin, DeBrincat, Vrana, Bennett, Scheifele, Kakko,Tolvanen, McBain,

    D: Heiskanen, Fox, Toews, Lundqvist

    G: Swayman, Andersen, Copley

    Drops

    F: Gaudreau, Terravainen, Puljujarvi, Kravstov, Zary

    D: Brannstrom, Cernak, Alexeyev

    G: Korpisalo, Merzlikins

    FARM: Rossi, Berggren, Holtz, Savoie, Clarke, Tarasov, Wolf

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