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    Just looking for opinions on Dach, i know hes only 20 but hasnt progressed like i thought he would. Have a trade offer for Dach, 2022 1st, 2022 2nd for Vejmelka. Just wanted to hear peoples thoughts on Dachs possible production
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    Forwards: Sillinger, Knies ,Burakovsky, Bratt, Laine, Hintz, Draisaitl, Mackinnon, Dach, Tuch, Thompson, McCann, Norris, Jarvis, Evangelista, Beniers, Batherson,
    Defense: Dobson, Perunovich, Chychrun, Durzi, Harley, Lauzon
    Goalies: Hart, Campbell, Francouz, UP Luukkonen, Ersson


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    Wait. Someone is offering you Dach, a 1st and a 2nd for Karl Vejmelka and you are not sure that you should take that?

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    haha i know its crazy i havent pulled trigger, but i always like to hear what people have to say. Was just curious on the groups thoughts of Dachs production
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    Forwards: Sillinger, Knies ,Burakovsky, Bratt, Laine, Hintz, Draisaitl, Mackinnon, Dach, Tuch, Thompson, McCann, Norris, Jarvis, Evangelista, Beniers, Batherson,
    Defense: Dobson, Perunovich, Chychrun, Durzi, Harley, Lauzon
    Goalies: Hart, Campbell, Francouz, UP Luukkonen, Ersson


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    The picks alone are probably worth it. Dach is just a bonus! Hurry up and take it.
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    Take Dach before they pull the offer!

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    I recommend you go and watch 5+ Chicago games and try and say Dach isn't top 3 in their most impressive players all season. Aside from Kane you probably won't notice a player more often than Dach. He's going to take some time as most big players tend to, and as a top 3 pick his odds of eventually breaking through is worth the gamble. That trade is ridiculous seeing as Arizona isn't going to be competitive for years... Take it while you can. Just look at his giveaway takeaway numbers this season. 25 takes and 15 gives is super impressive for a young player. Anyways, strong accept for me..

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    You've said it yourself, he's 20. He'll be fine. Pull the trigger on that trade.
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    Take the deal and pray it doesn’t get vetoed. Haha
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    Dach is definitely not a bum but he is not developing like Chicago wants. His wrist injury really set him back and it could be still be causing him some issues. I doubt he'll be the 3rd best player from his draft and those Getzlaf comps need to be tempered. With his size, he'll never be a bust but I definitely think the ceiling is a little lower than what was previously thought. Then again like Mdraft said, big players often take longer so maybe he pops in another year or so. And definitely take the trade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mdratch View Post
    I recommend you go and watch 5+ Chicago games and try and say Dach isn't top 3 in their most impressive players all season. Aside from Kane you probably won't notice a player more often than Dach. He's going to take some time as most big players tend to, and as a top 3 pick his odds of eventually breaking through is worth the gamble. That trade is ridiculous seeing as Arizona isn't going to be competitive for years... Take it while you can. Just look at his giveaway takeaway numbers this season. 25 takes and 15 gives is super impressive for a young player. Anyways, strong accept for me..
    Agree with all of this. Smash the "accept" button before the other removes his offer.

    I like Dach, but I think it's going to take some time before he takes off. Watching some Chicago games, you can see right away that he's got great playmaking abilities. He reads plays and sometimes pulls off some incredible passes that other players just can't. He's not getting the points right now, but he's been demoted on the third line recently. I'd like to see him use his shot a little bit more and also, he's a big boy at 6 foot 4, almost 200 pounds, and you can clearly see that he's not using that to its full advantage yet. It's going to come, so if you can afford to be patient, I think you got a good centerman for the future there. I don't know about you guys, but Dach kind of reminds me of Jesperi Kotkaniemi in the way they play right now. Although I like KK's shot better, I prefer Dach's ceiling.
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    I hope you got this done???
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    This is an instant accept.

    He's 21, 6'4", 3rd overall pick, only played 118 NHL games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheds08 View Post
    haha i know its crazy i havent pulled trigger, but i always like to hear what people have to say. Was just curious on the groups thoughts of Dachs production
    I frequently like to hear other opinions but not at the risk of losing a slam-dunk win. This one you pull the trigger then post--about how you just robbed the OGM--and ask should you hang onto Dach or think about flipping him for another upgrade.
    The guy above who mentioned he is a young #3 overall pick, big-frame #1 C with only 117 games played is on the right track. The wrist injury was a big hit to him to start the year. I would love to have the guy in my system and would trade as many Vejmellkas as needed to acquire him. I preferred Cozens over him and still do but Dach is a good prospect who was brought up too early in an organization that has experienced substantial turmoil. I would hold him happily and hope another schmuck comes along and offers me another slam-dunk win for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheds08 View Post
    Just looking for opinions on Dach, i know hes only 20 but hasnt progressed like i thought he would. Have a trade offer for Dach, 2022 1st, 2022 2nd for Vejmelka. Just wanted to hear peoples thoughts on Dachs possible production
    First off, you take that deal, and I like what Vejmelka has shown.

    Secondly, it's really rare that a 20 year old pro athlete is a bum. I do know a number of 20-somethings who were bums at 20 and before, but most of them weren't driven enough to be in the best league int he world for their sport.
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